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Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 10 2007 05:28PM
Paul Sebastian Ziegler (psz observed de) (2 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 12 2007 05:55PM
johan beisser (jb caustic org) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 12 2007 07:27PM
Matt D. Harris (mdh solitox net) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 12 2007 09:15PM
johan beisser (jb caustic org) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 09:59AM
Florian Echtler (echtler in tum de) (4 replies)
RE: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 17 2007 03:05AM
Quark IT - Hilton Travis (Hilton QuarkIT com au)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 14 2007 03:20AM
Raj Mathur (raju linux-delhi org) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 14 2007 09:01PM
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Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 10:03PM
Stefano Zanero (s zanero securenetwork it)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 08:39PM
Paul Wouters (paul xtdnet nl) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 09:07PM
johan beisser (jb caustic org) (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 09:38PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu (1 replies)
Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 14 2007 09:34PM
Frank Guthausen (fg-bugtraq nsv-server de)
Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - ProjectHayNeedle Nov 10 2007 06:53PM
Jan Newger (memger gmx net) (2 replies)
Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 10:13AM
Peter Conrad (conrad tivano de)
Hi,

Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 19:53 schrieb Jan Newger:
>
> NO! This is totally WRONG! The only thing which is logged, in the case
> of internet connectivity, is your IP you got from the ISP. Not even
> connections are logged! This is important to understand since many
> people are misinformed this way. Read
> http://www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/content/view/78/86/lang,de/#Umsetz
ung
>_in_Deutschland

1. That document is not quite up-to-date. I don't think there
were any improvements in the actually passed law, though.

2. The IP is not "the only thing which is logged". Besides
telephone and SMS/MMS connections the following is logged:
- for internet connections (i. e. dial-in or equivalent):
- IP number
- connecting user (i. e. the calling phone number,
ppp userid or equivalent)
- Timestamp

- for email
- sender and recipient address of every email (logged on
sending as well as receiving servers)
- IP address(es) accessing a mailbox
- timestamps for both of the above

- for anonymizing services (!):
- original and anonymized identifiers (e. g. IP or
email address)
- timestamps

So much for "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit".

Bye,
Peter
--
Peter Conrad Tel: +49 6102 / 80 99 072
[ t]ivano Software GmbH Fax: +49 6102 / 80 99 071
Bahnhofstr. 18 http://www.tivano.de/
63263 Neu-Isenburg

Germany

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 11 2007 09:26PM
Duncan Simpson (dps simpson demon co uk) (1 replies)
Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Nov 13 2007 09:03PM
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