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Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 05 2008 06:15PM
Jon Kibler (Jon Kibler aset com) (7 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 08 2008 10:51PM
M.B.Jr. (marcio barbado gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 09 2008 04:56AM
Jon Kibler (Jon Kibler aset com)
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M.B.Jr. wrote:
> Yeah, right.
>
> Learning from the books, baaad!
> Learning from "real world" experience, gooood!
>
> C'mon, both are important.

No, that is NOT what I said. What I did say was:
Learning from the books only and claiming that is EQUIVALENT to real
world experience is BAAAAD!

That is what we have WAY too much of! "I read a book, so I now have
learned everything I would have by working for 5 years." Give me a
break! The two are FAR from the same.

I have nothing whatsoever against book learning. In fact, I probably
read 200 to 400+ pages a week myself just to keep up. However, I do NOT
claim that something I have read in the book gives me any ability to
actually DO anything in the real world. But, if I take what I learn in
the book, apply it in real world situation, AND I am able to get it to
work in a manner similar to what I learned in the book, THEN and only
then, can I claim any experience even remotely related to my book learning.

Jon
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Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 08 2008 09:39PM
Kurt Buff (kurt buff gmail com)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 05:23PM
R. DuFresne (dufresne sysinfo com) (1 replies)
RE: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 10:32PM
Ray Chow (Ray Chow dia govt nz) (1 replies)
RE: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 07 2008 01:18AM
R. DuFresne (dufresne sysinfo com) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 07 2008 10:28AM
Matt - MRS Security (matt mrssecurity com) (1 replies)
RE: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 08 2008 04:00PM
Stuart Criddle (stuart ngssoftware com)
RE: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 11:47AM
John Babio (jbabio po-box esu edu)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 05 2008 11:59PM
Jay D. Dyson (jdyson treachery net) (4 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 08 2008 07:40AM
Dragos Ruiu (dr kyx net)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 06:04PM
Matt - MRS Security (matt mrssecurity com)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 02:28AM
brendan (xasperated gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 05:25AM
Jimmy Brokaw (hedgie hedgie com)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 03:43AM
Jay D. Dyson (jdyson treachery net) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 08:42AM
David Howe (DaveHowe Pentest googlemail com)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 01:50AM
Jon Kibler (Jon Kibler aset com) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 04:37PM
John Mason Jr (john mason jr cox net)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 05 2008 07:57PM
Mario Platt (mplatt gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 05 2008 09:01PM
Jon Kibler (Jon Kibler aset com)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 05 2008 07:19PM
Terry Cutler (jedi31337 gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Certifications: Not worth the paper they are printed on? Oct 06 2008 08:12AM
David Howe (DaveHowe Pentest googlemail com)







 

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