It's been a bit since I was forced to do PCI on a daily basis so someone
will come along and correct me if I'm wrong....

If the logs contain no PII/cardholder data and the logs are pushed to the
central log storage device (not pulled from device) then the log server is
not in scope. If the logs do contain PII/cardholder data then the log device
is in scope but does not make the 300+ other devices which log to the device
in scope.

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> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:27 AM
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> Subject: PCI Compliance Scope
>
> Question for PCI experts:
>
> During a PCI Audit the Auditor told us that all the Security Devices
> protecting Cardholder Data are also part of PCI Scope, which makes
> sense for IDS/IPS, FW, AD, so on but what about a Log Management tool?
>
> This means that my Log Management Centralized Server solution which is
> getting logs not just for PCI assets but for the whole network ... is
> gonna be in scope?
> if so? This means all 300 security devices sending the logs (Servers,
> WStations, Data Bases, AV) to the Centralized server are in scope Too?
>
> if so?
>
> Then, obviously I need to find a way to isolate & split the Log
> Management Server from the whole network to only monitor PCI assets
> but that entails to buy a new costly license to have another
> Centralized log server, which is not doable for us.
>
> Have you ever had the same problem? so that you can share the way to
> resolve it WITHOUT adding new software/hardware?
>
> I think I need to create a kind of PCI Security Devices Zone isolated
> from the network but not sure if that works for PCI Auditor.
>
> Please share your ideas.
> --
> Danux
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