Try to segment and ACL first. Then to minimize scope try deploying
some sort of non repudiated logging (A device like a WORM or EWORM) and
yes this will cost some but do a Google search for Eworm and you will
get the vendors out there. HTH

Regards,
Gary Everekyan
CISSP, CISM, CHS-III, ISSAP, ISSPCS, ITILp, CGEIT, MCSE, MCT

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:27 AM
To: pen-test (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: PCI Compliance Scope

Question for PCI experts:

During a PCI Audit the Auditor told us that all the Security Devices
protecting Cardholder Data are also part of PCI Scope, which makes
sense for IDS/IPS, FW, AD, so on but what about a Log Management tool?

This means that my Log Management Centralized Server solution which is
getting logs not just for PCI assets but for the whole network ... is
gonna be in scope?
if so? This means all 300 security devices sending the logs (Servers,
WStations, Data Bases, AV) to the Centralized server are in scope Too?

if so?

Then, obviously I need to find a way to isolate & split the Log
Management Server from the whole network to only monitor PCI assets
but that entails to buy a new costly license to have another
Centralized log server, which is not doable for us.

Have you ever had the same problem? so that you can share the way to
resolve it WITHOUT adding new software/hardware?

I think I need to create a kind of PCI Security Devices Zone isolated
from the network but not sure if that works for PCI Auditor.

Please share your ideas.
--
Danux

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