Penetration Testing
CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 24 2011 07:01PM
Alberto Medina (amedinaj gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 28 2011 01:08PM
Michael Richard (alfarichard gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 30 2011 05:08PM
Robert Musser (rmusser2209 gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Oct 01 2011 09:36PM
Security Auditor (auditor sec gmail com)
RES: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 30 2011 02:17PM
Fabio Nascimento de Mello (fabio nmello totvs com br)
Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 26 2011 02:16PM
Clement Dupuis (clement dupuis gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide Sep 28 2011 03:37AM
Bandar Alharbi (bandar malharbi gmail com)
Hello Alberto,

I think what Mr.Clement has said is golden!

I just want to add something to the discussion: please have a look at the backtrack certification path. It has been gaining more reputation over the last year; and it is what you are really looking for.

http://www.backtrack-linux.org/information-security-training/offensive-s
ecurity/

Best luck!

Bandar

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From: Clement Dupuis <clement.dupuis (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]>

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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:16:25

To: <drmarkabaiter (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]>

Cc: <pen-test (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>

Subject: Re: CEH program and Sybex Study Guide

Good day Alberto,

Your Security+ class was probably the best start you could have done.

However, it seems that you waiting a bit long to continue your

learning quest. But it is better late than never. You must have a

passion to get into security testing, you must have the desire to

learn on a day to day basis. It is NOT an 8 to 4 job.

To become a good tester you must have knowledge of at least Operating

Systems of different types, good grasp on networking and bit level

knowledge of ICMP, UDP, and TCP as a starter. If you wish to get

into Database testing then you must learn a whole lot about DB and how

they work. Some coding experience would help as well.

Security testing is very large as a profession, you might want to

identify your niche at one point. This is where the CEH will give

you a teaser of different aspect of Security Testing and maybe point

you in a direction that you like.

The book you mention below is obsolete and was built for the CEH

Version 6. The next thing you might want to look at when you buy a

book is WHO wrote it, are they well known penetration testers, how

much practical experience does the author and technical editors have

in security testing, do they perform tests for a living? In the

case of the Sybex book I think a lot of practical experience doing

tests was missing from the people who worked on this book. It will

not help you much with today's exam and version 7 of the CEH. The

book has a minimalistic approach and not an holistic approach that's

for sure.

Take care

Clement

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:01, Alberto Medina <amedinaj (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> I know maybe in this list you have talk a lot about CEH program, but I want to know what do you really think about this program (CEH)? Is this really useful to start in information security? And what do you think about the Sybex Study Guide, by "Kimberly Grave"?

> I do this question because a couple of years ago I took the CompTIA Security+ exam and passed it, but I wanna to continue the preparation in the field of information security and Ethical hacking, and someone recommended me the "Certified Ethical Hacker" certification as a good way to continue the path, so a bought the Sybex Study Guide for the exam, but I don't see a lot of difference between the content of Security+ program and this one, I thought I'd find the CEH deeper in the subject than Security+ program.

> In fact, I found this Sybex guide is not very actual, there's not any mention to Windows 7 or even Vista, the tools mentioned are kind of old, in the "cracking password" section they don't talk about rainbow tables, only a littler mention; in the "backdoor" sections she (the author) recommend adding an additional hard disk to the computer and boot from there for protection using the backdoor she mention, or buy a Windows netbook, but it's not better using a VM in for testing?

> Anyway, I just want to know what you think about this program? If not, what do you recommend for continue the path to Ethical Hacking and Information Security.

>

> Thank you and best regards,

> Alberto Medina

>

> (Excuse my English :) )

>

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