Penetration Testing
auditing web/mail proxies Dec 05 2011 09:21AM
cribbar (crib bar hotmail co uk) (3 replies)
Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 13 2011 05:06PM
White Hat (whitehat237 gmail com)
Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 11 2011 12:54AM
Brian Quick (brian e quick1 gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 12 2011 07:38AM
A. Ramos (aramosf gmail com)
Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 06 2011 07:36AM
Anders Thulin (anders thulin sentor se) (2 replies)
Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 06 2011 07:42PM
Justin Rogosky (jrogosky gmail com)
To sum up what Anders said (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), it
all depends on what you are trying to prove.
If you want to prove that you can exfiltrate data, then try sending
something marked up to be confidential (this comes in a variety of
marking and classification that is hard to be specific).
In addition, there is a BIG difference between pen testing and
auditing, so depending on if it is a pen test or audit your goals will
be wildly different.

If you are auditing, look at the settings of the system. See if they
are whitelisting or blacklisting. Is SSL being intercepted? Is DNS
part of it in that they are resolving IPs to determine accessibility?
What key words are they hitting on to prevent data leakage. It is a
long list of things to check and depends on scope of the test.

--Justin

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Anders Thulin <anders.thulin (at) sentor (dot) se [email concealed]> wrote:
> On 2011-12-05 10:21, cribbar wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever audited a proxy during a pen test/IT audit or as an audit on
>> itself? If so do you have a scope of what kind of checks you reviewed, or a
>> checklist?
>
>  An audit is intended to answer the question: does the examined system work
> according to the rules and regulations it should follow? The next question is,
> obviously, are there any such rules?
>
>  That should be answered by the organization owning or otherwise managing
> the proxy: what rules should be followed? These will typically relate to the
> management of the proxy: how is access controlled, how are changes implemented,
> how are logs and backups handled, and so on. (Tests of proper function -- quality
> testing -- is usually not regarded as part of an audit. That's more akin to
> penetration testing.)  The rules need not be expressed for the proxy specifically,
> they could be part of an IS or IT policy, applying to all IS or IT systems in
> the organization. And in some special cases, they might even take the form of
> local or national law.
>
>  For an audit, you job includes defining the system you are auditing (the word
> 'system' is used an a fairly general sense here -- it needn't be just a network 'box',
> but an entire proxy support and management -- don't forget helpdesk!), identify
> the rules that are relevant that system, and then verify that they are indeed being
> followed.
>
>  If there are no relevant rules, an audit cannot be done.  If the system cannot
> be strictly defined (in the sense of if some entity is part of the system or not),
> there will be difficulties later. Additionally, if there are rules, but they cannot be
> audited (quite often because they are imprecise), the only thing is to identify the
> problem, and suggest a remedy for the next audit.
>
>  There *are* usually best practice suggestions, which, in the absence of other
> requirements, could (barely) be used. But again, the system definition decides:
> are you looking at a proxy box only, or a component in a network, at a system
> that must be managed over it's lifetime, alone or in relation to other information systems
> of which it is considered a part?
>
>
>  'Muscular audits' ... deciding on your own what the rules are (or should be) is a
> possible way, technically, but it's so far from the accepted definition of an audit that
> I don't consider it practical.
>
> --
> Anders Thulin      anders.thulin (at) sentor (dot) se [email concealed]      070-757 36 10 / Intl. +46 70 757 36 10
>

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Re: auditing web/mail proxies Dec 06 2011 09:54AM
Dion Stempfley (dtsonline verizon net)


 

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