Sorry for the late answer...

But when you scan for machines that do not answer to ping (it means
answer with an echo reply for each echo request), you could try using
timestamp, and will return timestamp reply, and also information
request and wait for an information reply

Both coould be useful also to detect equipments that do not answer to
ping. And if you want something more "noisy" maybe a network discovery
or a -P0 option.

Here is a summary of message types with their port (for ICMP protocol).

0 Echo Reply
3 Destination Unreachable
4 Source Quench
5 Redirect
8 Echo
11 Time Exceeded
12 Parameter Problem
13 Timestamp
14 Timestamp Reply
15 Information Request
16 Information Reply

More detail on: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc792.html

Hope it will be useful.

Regards,

Juan Pablo.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:35 PM, John M. Martinelli
<john.martinelli (at) redlevel (dot) org [email concealed]> wrote:
> This would work but it would be kind of "noisy" to open port scan
> every host. Also probably a little more time consuming.
>
> Adding in syn scan or open port scan will create more time required as
> we're now looking for open ports. What if all ports are closed? Will
> it respond to a certain type of ICMP?
>
> I think a great question to ask is: "What is the least-impactful way I
> can very quickly determine what hosts are alive?" without a
> traditional ping sweep.
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Jeffory Atkinson <jatkinson (at) zelvin (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
>>
>> All depends on what you are trying to achieve. I would assume that you are not concerned about monitoring devices seeing you have done a ping sweep with nmap. I agree with others a port scan is going to give you the best idea if a host is active. There are Many instances filtering devices can drop icmp or respond for hosts behind them.  Open ports and services are the best identifiers. A port has to be open in some form (open or filtered) to interact with in-bound connections. I would recommend a -sS (syn) scan you can opt for standard services or add -p1- for all 65k+ ports. All ports will verify and services/demons running. There are other options if bandwidth is an issue.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Ukpong <ukpong.ukpong (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
>>
>> > Can somebody suggest the best NMAP commands for identifying hosts that
>> > are not responding to ICMP ping requests ?
>> >
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