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Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 04:29PM
Secure This (lists securethis net) (7 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 02:55PM
Jason Thompson (securitux gmail com) (4 replies)
ICMP is not vital for network operation, though it is convenient. PING
isn't required at all, ICMP unreachable messages don't do anything
other than notify the receiver to stop trying to connect to a
destination as it isn't alive (the receiver should get a hint of this
when his SYN's don't get a SYN ACK), ICMP redirects shouldn't happen
if your network is structured properly, and even if it's not, it just
adds an extra hop.

I don't see any ICMP messages that are a MUST for network operation.

That being said, if network monitoring is being done via SNMPv1 or v2
which isn't secure at all, ICMP is the least of your problems. I agree
with a few here that you allow ICMP from trusted to untrusted, but not
vice versa. And definitely NO ICMP from the Internet.

Keep in mind, if you give ICMP the boot on your internal network,
expect a lot more support calls as most users don't consider a device
up and working unless they can ping it.

-J

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Secure This <lists (at) securethis (dot) net [email concealed]> wrote:
> I have a variety of clients with data centres who all make use of
> icmp/ping to monitor their servers/appliances/devices (often with poorly
> configured snmp versions 1 and 2).
>
> Could anybody kindly advise me of tools and strategies for minimising or
> removing the use of icmp/ping on a supposedly secure network?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 05:02AM
Michael Painter (tvhawaii shaka com)
RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 07:29PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 07:08PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (2 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 04:25PM
Jason (securitux gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 11:29PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 04:34PM
Jason (securitux gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 29 2008 07:35PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 31 2008 10:29PM
Jason (securitux gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 04 2008 12:28PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (2 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 05 2008 05:17PM
Mark Owen (mr markowen gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 07 2008 03:27PM
Jason (securitux gmail com)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 05 2008 12:06AM
Jason (securitux gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 06 2008 02:54PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 07 2008 04:53PM
Jason (securitux gmail com)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 05:09PM
Mark Owen (mr markowen gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 06:52PM
Jason (securitux gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 08:49PM
Michael Painter (tvhawaii shaka com) (2 replies)
RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 12:13AM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 11:48PM
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RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 03:07PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 04:27AM
Michael Painter (tvhawaii shaka com) (2 replies)
RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 04:49PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 28 2008 04:44PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 30 2008 01:32AM
Michael Painter (tvhawaii shaka com) (1 replies)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Apr 01 2008 12:13PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net)
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RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 12:30AM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 05:53PM
Mark Owen (mr markowen gmail com)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 05:32PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net)
Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 05:17PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 12:13PM
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RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 04:56PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 25 2008 06:12PM
Mark Owen (mr markowen gmail com) (2 replies)
RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 01:58PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 26 2008 06:44PM
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
RE: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 02:19PM
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Re: Removing ping/icmp from a network Mar 27 2008 02:34PM
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