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RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 05:22PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 11 2012 10:54PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 11 2012 11:57PM
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RE: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 10:10PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:22PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 05:49PM
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RE: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 05:47PM
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RE: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:35PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:00PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 14 2012 01:41PM
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RE: RDP over the internet Jul 18 2012 09:53AM
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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 16 2012 09:29AM
Ansgar Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
Re: RDP over the internet Mar 17 2012 01:46PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 17 2012 06:04PM
Ansgar Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
RE: RDP over the internet Mar 19 2012 05:05PM
Dan Lynch (DLynch placer ca gov) (1 replies)
Re: RDP over the internet Mar 19 2012 06:52PM
Ansgar Wiechers (bugtraq planetcobalt net) (1 replies)
On 2012-03-19 Dan Lynch wrote:
>>>> New vulnerabilities will be discovered every now and then. Duh. The
>>>> question is: do they get fixed in a timely manner?
>>>
>>> The fact is that "open port" is a potential attack vector because a
>>> vulnerability may be discovered in the application.
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but as long as you're using
>> TCP/IP you need an open port if you want to be able to establish a
>> connection.
>
> But it's clear that *any* open port represents additional risk. If
> that open port is not required for the function of the system (as
> terminal services/RDP generally is not), it's an unnecessary risk
> (however convenient it might be). And that risk is compounded if that
> port is running by necessity with system level permissions, and
> offering up a login screen that people use with their admin
> credentials. Also, terminal services is dependent on the loading of
> yet another service: RPC.
>
> For these reasons, I don't believe the concern expressed over exposing
> RDP to the internet is "a massive generalisation". I think that
> concern is clearly justified.

Indeed. And I didn't write anything about "massive generalisation". I
did, however, want to point out that one newly discovered vulnerability
is no proof whatsoever for a claim about unpatched vulnerabilities.

> RDP is not of the same risk level as, say NTP.

I'd argue that the complexity of VPN (or SSH) services is closer to RDP
than to NTP, though. ;)

> And if, when we point out that risk, CEOs then see security officers
> as "the enemy", it's because the security folks have failed to (1)
> account for the value in the convenience offered by things like RDP,
> (2) reasonably evaluate that value against the risk, and (3) consider
> what actions, configurations and technologies are available to
> mitigate the risk.

No argument there. And FTR: personally I do prefer using RDP through
encrypted tunnels, even though RDP itself is an encrypted protocol.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
--
"All vulnerabilities deserve a public fear period prior to patches
becoming available."
--Jason Coombs on Bugtraq

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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 21 2012 04:51PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 15 2012 06:43AM
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RE: RDP over the internet Mar 16 2012 11:24AM
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Re: RDP over the internet Mar 16 2012 11:25PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:46PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 07:29PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 09:45PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:43PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 07:27PM
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Re: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 07:27PM
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RE: RDP over the internet Jan 10 2012 06:35PM
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