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Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 10:30AM Daniel Gil (the900 gmail com) (5 replies) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 15 2012 04:36AM Peter Thomas (hackertarget admin gmail com) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 06:12PM john dow (guest01 gmail com) (1 replies) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 09:04PM Andy Smith (andy m0vkg org uk) (2 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 04 2012 02:45PM Mikhail A. Utin (mutin commonwealthcare org) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 04 2012 08:37AM Marian Paun (marian paun gmail com) (1 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 04 2012 03:13PM Mikhail A. Utin (mutin commonwealthcare org) (1 replies) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 04 2012 05:15PM Ron McKown (RMcKown apptio com) (2 replies) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 05 2012 04:38AM Thugzclub (thugzclub googlemail com) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 05 2012 03:57AM Anwar Khan (anwarrhce gmail com) (1 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 07 2012 01:45PM Mikhail A. Utin (mutin commonwealthcare org) (1 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 08 2012 07:27PM Mahmoud Kaddoura (Mahmoud Kaddoura injazat com) (1 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 05:56PM David Gillett (gillettdavid fhda edu) (1 replies) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 08:08PM spaz (marco spaz org) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 12:17PM Anwar Khan (anwarrhce gmail com) (1 replies) RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 08:36PM Mikhail A. Utin (mutin commonwealthcare org) Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools May 03 2012 12:07PM Nightshade (avghacker gmail com) |
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mahmoud Kaddoura
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:27 PM
To: Mikhail A. Utin ; Anwar Khan ; Ron McKown
Cc: Marian Paun ; security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
We have done POC for many of these products (Arcsight , RSA, ...) and all of
them have issues and limitations
Archsight needs some effort to get implemented but they have an amazing
dashboard where you can easily identify abnormalities in your network
While others and mainly RSA , it is agentless , easy to deploy for many
products but it needs some experts/high skills to identify abnormalities
-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed] [mailto:listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]] On
Behalf Of Mikhail A. Utin
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:45 PM
To: Anwar Khan; Ron McKown
Cc: Marian Paun; security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
I would say that nothing is perfect in this world. The opinion below sounds
as not professional. Even careful consideration of Gartner research of 2011
will show that ArcSight, Q1Labs and NitroSecurity are very close in Gartner
used parameters/capabilities. Not to mention a few others. Each has own
approach, but features and capabilities are very close. People consider that
Q1Lab is much easier to install and use than ArcSight. There are some
examples when people switch from ArcSight to other products because of
complexity of ArcSight management and configuration. AlienVault, for
instance, is the leader in installations, by the information on their site,
but I would not expect them cheating. As far as I remember, ArcSight does
not provide such very important feature as "external database logging". This
is actually my term. It means that database logs are extracted from either
network traffic or from internal transactions, and which is 10 times better
than any original database logging. For instance, you can catch SQL
injection. NitroSecurity does that, and, BTW, has IDS/IPS completely
integrated with other appliances.
This list can continue for dozens of pages. The point is - there is no ideal
solution, and this is NOT money issue at all.
Mikhail Utin, CISSP
Information Security Analyst
-----Original Message-----
From: Anwar Khan [mailto:anwarrhce (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 11:57 PM
To: Ron McKown
Cc: Mikhail A. Utin; Marian Paun; security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
Hi All,
I would say, if you have budget and looking for long time solution, ArcSight
is best as we are using it.
All competitors have limitations and drawbacks, not ArcSight.
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Ron McKown <RMcKown (at) apptio (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
> Mikhail,
>
> I would very much like to see your SIEM research paper.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Ron McKown, CISSP
> - Sent from a tablet device
>
> On May 4, 2012, at 9:56 AM, "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin (at) commonwealthcare (dot) org [email concealed]>
> wrote:
>
>> By my research, and a couple of published in 2011 reviews, all ArcSight
>> competitors provide very similar features and capabilities. They reached
>> the point where they can only improve, but not invent or develop
>> something really different. I would not trust Gartner in its research
>> (they rated ArcSight as top of the line product) and the Magic Quadrant
>> as well. Guys were missing point very often. Each SIEM vendor has its own
>> approach how to create a line of SIEM products. Almost all are
>> appliances. There are just a few software providing vendors. Almost all
>> have "all-in-one" low end appliance solution.
>>
>> Yes, HP got ArcSight to use in its services, which are expensive, and
>> that started affecting the company's "technical" position. BTW, two other
>> major vendors - Q1Lab and NitroSecurity are not independent anymore as
>> well.
>>
>> If the list is interested, I can polish my SIEM research draft and
>> publish it.
>>
>> Mikhail Utin, CISSP
>> Information Security Analyst
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
>> [mailto:listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]] On Behalf Of Marian Paun
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:37 AM
>> To: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
>> Subject: RE: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
>>
>> We had several years experiente with Quest Intrust and were not very
>> impressed by it (huge performance issues when the event rate or
>> number of event sources grow above a certain threshold, ridiculous
>> correlation capabilities, administration nightmare). For around one
>> year and half we are using Arcsight and are delighted with it. It
>> _is_ expensive, but great value for money. Not very sure if the
>> product will keep up after Arcsight was purchased by HP :(
>>
>> Marian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
>> [mailto:listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]] On Behalf Of Andy Smith
>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:04 AM
>> To: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
>> Subject: Re: Centralized firewall management and log analysis tools
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM, john dow <guest01 (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
>>> If money is not a concern, I would recommend Check Point. We have
>>> quite a big Check Point deployment as well as Juniper Firewalls,
>>> Phion/Baracuda Firewalls and some Cisco Firewalls (ASA, PIX). Check
>>> Point has by far the best tools for managing a centralized deployment.
>>> Even their IPS-blade is much better now that I has been before. For
>>> log analysis you could use Check Point Eventia Reporter and with
>>> Tufin, you can do much more, e.g. track changes, compliance, ...
>>> I am not a Check Point guy and I regularly complain about Check
>>> Point myself, but it is definitely the best package I have experienced
>>> yet.
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