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Re: Tool to find rouge wireless access points? May 14 2012 07:58PM
Felipe Martins (martins felipe security gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Tool to find rouge wireless access points? May 15 2012 07:27PM
Jon D (rekcahpmip gmail com) (2 replies)
RE: Tool to find rouge wireless access points? May 15 2012 08:18PM
Mike Saldivar (Mike Saldivar usurf usu edu)
RE: Tool to find rouge wireless access points? May 15 2012 08:11PM
Estell Kauffman (Estell Kauffman chickasaw net)
Jon,

If you are running lightweight APs off a controller most of the controller software I've seen includes rogue AP detection. The APs themselves act as detectors reporting the beacons and related information back to the controller. The controller itself is generally able to see the wired side of the network and can then identify the rogue. Some controllers also include the ability to shut down rogue APs.

The only other tool I've seen in the past that would be able to identify an unauthorized network device, including rogue APs, is netdisco (http://www.netdisco.org/). Netdisco will go out and scan your network using SNMP, LLDP, and CDP. This allows it to not only identify those devices but also identify what switch and port it is connected to.

HTH,

Estell Kauffman

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Subject: Re: Tool to find rouge wireless access points?

Sorry Felipe. Basically the core question is 'how to find rouge access points'.
For example, if an end user plugs in a linksys wireless router under their desk, how do you detect it?

Expanding on the question, is that usually from what I've seen, just scanning with nmap or something might not pick it up if the AP is configured not to respond to pings, and doesn't have ports open, etc.
And without knowing the encryption password, sniffing wireless traffic seems out of the question too. Simply scanning with something like kismet will only tell you that there's an AP in the area, but you don't know if it's an AP plugged into your network, or if it's another companies AP.
The link that was posted about sniffing the encrypted wireless traffic for netbios requests that aren't encrypted seems interesting.
Something I'll try.

Thanks,
Jon

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Felipe Martins <martins.felipe.security (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
> Yes, i'm on the same way. I didn't  fully understand what the question
> was. Can you be more specific Jon.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Felipe Martins
> CEH, RHCE, RHCI, LPI, ITIL, NCLA, DCTS Security Specialist and
> Projects
>
>

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