Indeed, from my experience, MSSE runs far more efficiently than any of the popular/well marketed AV clients (Kaspersky, AVG, Symantec, Trend). Because of this, removing a competing product and replacing with MSSE vastly improves system performance (old or new). No toolbars/BHO, NDIS, "identity protection" or any other gimmicks is very appealing.

Also, on many occasions we have seen MSSE detect and successfully remove new malware that other products didn't even detect until their signatures included these programs - sometimes days later.

-----Original Message-----

From: listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed] [mailto:listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:32 AM

To: Vic Vandal

Cc: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]

Subject: Re: Malware detection

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Vic Vandal <vvandal (at) well (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:

> Quotes and responses:

>

> In closing, MS Security Essentials is not your best bet for identifying and defeating said malware.

>

Interestingly, Security Essentials has one of the better architectures with respect to ipc and process counts. For example, MSSE generally uses two processes (1 userland, 1 privileged) and has a minimal amount of handles shared between the two). It makes it difficult to attack the privileged component through userland via shared handles (Events, Mutexes, File, etc).

Other AV, such as TrendMicro or McAfee, can have 8, 10, or 12 processes in a system, and handle sharing was like an orgy. We found it very easy to attack privileged components through shared handles.

For example, we would accidentally shut down the firewall and update service while testing the scanner.

packetstormsecurity.org/files/100564/Old-Dogs-and-New-Tricks.pdf

Jeff

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Savvy95 (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]

> To: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]

> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:50:44 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Malware detection

>

> My 2 cents.....

>

> If you are not looking for a "large robust solution" and you have

> Windows, try a mixed solution of Microsoft Windows Security Essentials

> for servers and workstations to detect and eliminate,

>

> Windows inherent AppLocker for Windows 2008/Windows 7/Vista for whitelisting authorized apps.

>

> For Windows XP, try Microsoft SteadyState to "freeze" the machine configuration and any changes are automaticallly removed on reboot. Note: It's been discontinued since 2011 and support for XP will be too in the near future.

>

> I hope you don't have Windows 98/ME/NT/2000 in your environment as

> there is no hope for you. ;-)

>

> Security

> Essentials:http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=520

> 1

>

> Applocker (How to Guide):

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd723686(v=WS.10).aspx

>

> SteadyState (search for the download) there is also a reference

> document for all settings in SteadyState here:

> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/springboard/archive/2010/09/27/st

> eady-state-for-windows-7.aspx

>

> You could use Microsoft System Center to what you want and more.

>

> Good Luck

>

> Glen Victor

> CISSP, ITIL, CEH, MCT

>

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