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Re: Windows Active Directory Domains Jul 14 2014 02:23PM
Kurt Buff (kurt buff gmail com) (1 replies)
Going bankrupt because of regulatory fines (or just paying a big fine)
vs. going bankrupt (or losing lots of money) because of theft of IP or
hacked bank accounts isn't much of a choice. They both are outcomes to
be avoided by exercising due care. One might argue that the
possibility of jail time because of HIPAA provisions or other laws
might provide extra incentive, but I haven't seen much of those kinds
of penalties - yet. And, if you can achieve the same level of security
without the complexity of extra configuration, or the expense of extra
staff, then your course is pretty clear.

Kurt

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Mikhail A. Utin
<mutin (at) commonwealthcare (dot) org [email concealed]> wrote:
> Hello,
> Quote: HR data isn't so much more private than other data (IMHO) that it needs that kind of special attention - the intellectual property and/or financial data and/or business processes require pretty much an equal level of care.
>
> Not really right as HR deals with personal identifiable information. See, for instance US MA 201 CMR 17.00, or similar. PI, i.e. legally protected personal information, is at least one record having any number (like SSN or a license) and full name. HR has a plenty of such information.
>
> In any case when you think of protecting data, you need to clarify if any compliance is required. If do, then you need to check the regulation(s) what it exactly requires. You may build up numerous expensive and technically correct solutions, but in a case of something goes wrong and protected (in legal context) data is acquired, your incompliance will be considered first and your efforts as secondary.
>
> I would remind that there are two parts in information security - legal (including compliance) and technical. First is more important as relates to the business directly. If there is no such matter of a compliance in your organization (there is no federal, state, local, industry regulation), then you are lucky person and have free hands.
>
> Regards
>
> Mikhail Utin, CISSP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed] [mailto:listbounce (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
> Subject: Re: Windows Active Directory Domains
>
> Some questions:
>
> Who administers the firewalls separating the HR domain from the other domain?
> Do the firewall admins also administer either domain?
> Are the firewalls between domains even more restrictive of web browsing and other online activity for HR than for the other staff?
> Who administers the HR domain, and why are they more trusted than those who administer the larger domain?
>
> As you probably gather, the situation seems (to me) fraught with redundancy and possibility for error. HR data isn't so much more private than other data (IMHO) that it needs that kind of special attention - the intellectual property and/or financial data and/or business processes require pretty much an equal level of care.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:48 PM, <joeb1kenobe (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
>> I have a scenario where I am trying to evaluate the security benefits of an Active Directory domain structure.
>>
>> We will call the company XYX Inc. They have an AD Forest/Domain for general users. They also have a separate AD Forest/Domain for their HR Users that is behind a firewall.
>>
>> The claim is that the separate forests with a one way trust provides the necessary security to protect the HR Information.
>>
>> My thinking is that having the users/servers in the same forest would provide additional benefit of ease of use for the technical team. Using the already existing firewall, separate the servers behind the firewall for the needed protection of HR files.
>>
>> Before I make a recommendation of one way or the other, I wanted to elicit the ideas of others who may have seen similar situations.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe Brown

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RE: Windows Active Directory Domains Jul 14 2014 03:02PM
Mikhail A. Utin (mutin commonwealthcare org) (1 replies)
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