Web Application Security
At what layer to hash a password Jun 21 2010 01:06PM
Robin Wood (robin digininja org) (5 replies)
RE: At what layer to hash a password Jun 28 2010 08:37PM
Niels Teusink (teusink fox-it com) (1 replies)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 29 2010 04:46AM
Chris Travers (chris metatrontech com)
RE: At what layer to hash a password Jun 26 2010 07:26PM
Dave Wichers (dave wichers aspectsecurity com) (1 replies)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 26 2010 07:29PM
Robin Wood (robin digininja org)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 26 2010 05:02PM
Javier Bassi (javierbassi gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 29 2010 04:43AM
Chris Travers (chris metatrontech com)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 26 2010 02:36PM
Chris Travers (chris metatrontech com)
Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 26 2010 11:13AM
Tom Ritter (tom ritter vg) (1 replies)
You covered several of the arguments: the password moving down the
stacks and being intercepted there, the maintainability.

But there's two more things I'd raise. First off, you really shouldn't
be hashing your passwords. It's better to use something I don't know
the correct term for (I've heard adaptive hashing and iterative hashing.
I usually just call them by name). The two things to read are "Enough
with the Rainbow Tables: What you need to know about Secure Password
Schemes" [1] which covers bcrypt and Colin Percival's new algorithm
scrypt [2]. These are hashes, but they're not your standard SHA-2 fare.

These protocols are not able to be run natively in any database I know
of. Additionally, at least at my office, our database is by far the
busiest machine we have - so moving CPU-intensive work (like calculating
geographic intersections) off it is always a win for us.

-tom

[1]
http://chargen.matasano.com/chargen/2007/9/7/enough-with-the-rainbow-tab
les-what-you-need-to-know-about-s.html
[2] http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2009-05-09-scrypt-key-derivation.html

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Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 28 2010 08:55AM
Grega Bremec (gregab p0f net) (2 replies)
Re:Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 29 2010 01:48AM
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Re: At what layer to hash a password Jun 28 2010 02:17PM
Robin Wood (robin digininja org)


 

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