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Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:23AM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (17 replies)

Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 04:47AM
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Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:30PM
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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:36PM
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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:24PM
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RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:08PM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)

I prefer OPTION B

Thanks!
John McCracken

-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Spitzner [mailto:lance (at) honeynet (dot) org [email concealed]]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 10:23 PM
To: honeypots (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots

In the past week we have received over thirty postings
about the definition of honeypots, each posting suggesting
a different defintion. I think we are all beginning to
realize just how tough it is to define this technology.
Honeypots are an extremely powerful tool that can
accomplish many different things. Some trends I've noticed.

First, many people are including the term 'decoy' in the
definition. While honeypots can 'decoy', I don't think
that should be in the definition. The term decoy implies
"to lure or entrap". Often honeypots don't lure. You just
put them out there and the bad guys find them on their own
intiative, nothing special is done to insare the attacker.
The Honeynet Project has being doing this for years now.

Second, many people are including in the definition how
honeypots are used to learn or research. Once again, while
honeypots can do this, they can do so much more. They
can be used for preventing attacks (such as LaBrea Tarpit)
or be used purely for detection similar to an IDS
system (such as Honeyd). We have to be very careful
in our defintion to ensure we do not imply why we would
want to use a honeypot.

Honeypots do not solve a specific problem, they are a
highly flexible tool with many different applications to
security. This is one of the things that makes honeypots
unique.

Based on all the feedback we have been getting, I've
narrowed this down into two options.

Thoughts?

OPTION A
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"A honeypot is an information system resource who's
value lies in being probed, attacked, or compromised"

OPTION B
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"A honeypot is an information system resource who's
value lies in monitoring unauthorized or illicit use of
that resource"

--
Lance Spitzner
http://www.tracking-hackers.com

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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:56PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org)

Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:46PM
Etaoin Shrdlu (shrdlu deaddrop org)