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Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:23AM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (17 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 04:47AM
Bill McCarty (bmccarty apu edu) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 07:38PM
Scarecrow (scarecrow runeweaver com)
Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:30PM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (6 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 24 2003 02:29AM
Erik S. Johansen (security sperling no) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 25 2003 12:27AM
Jon Price (jon nytimes com)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:58PM
Jack McCarthy (lists jackmccarthy com) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 05:24PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:37PM
Steve Barnet (barnet chem wisc edu)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:05PM
Marc Dacier (marc dacier eurecom fr) (2 replies)
RE: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 04:07PM
David Gillett (gillettdavid fhda edu)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:35PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:48PM
Volker Tanger (volker tanger discon de) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:28PM
Tora (tagetora users sourceforge net)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:40PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 06:36PM
Chris Burton (cyberhiker99 yahoo com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 08:37AM
Fabien Pouget (Fabien Pouget eurecom fr)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 01:22AM
Per Gustav Ousdal (pgo-ml ousdal com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 09:37PM
Graeme Thompson (gdthompson optushome com au)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 07:56PM
David Goldsmith (dgoldsmith sans org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:49PM
Richard H. Cotterell (seec mail retina ar)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:06PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:37PM
Bernie, CTA (cta hcsin net) (1 replies)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 04:38AM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:30PM
Harish Pillay (harish maringotree com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:46PM
Rick Hayes (rhayes vicor com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:36PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 04:52PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:24PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org) (1 replies)
On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 04:23, Lance Spitzner wrote:
>
> First, many people are including the term 'decoy' in the
> definition. While honeypots can 'decoy', I don't think
> that should be in the definition. The term decoy implies
> "to lure or entrap". Often honeypots don't lure. You just
> put them out there and the bad guys find them on their own
> intiative, nothing special is done to insare the attacker.
> The Honeynet Project has being doing this for years now.

Mhmm I think this is difficult to put concisely. Basically you want to
define something like a mousetrap without cheese -- the only thing I can
think of that does something like that in the real world is a minefield.

> Second, many people are including in the definition how
> honeypots are used to learn or research. Once again, while
> honeypots can do this, they can do so much more. They
> can be used for preventing attacks (such as LaBrea Tarpit)
> or be used purely for detection similar to an IDS
> system (such as Honeyd). We have to be very careful
> in our defintion to ensure we do not imply why we would
> want to use a honeypot.

I fully agree with this -- it's the old mechanism versus policy argument
I guess.

> Based on all the feedback we have been getting, I've
> narrowed this down into two options.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> OPTION A
> --------
> "A honeypot is an information system resource who's
> value lies in being probed, attacked, or compromised"
>
>
> OPTION B
> --------
> "A honeypot is an information system resource who's
> value lies in monitoring unauthorized or illicit use of
> that resource"

Among those I still prefer the first one. Actually if you just drop
"decoy" from my attempt I still like it:

"A honeypot is an information system resource set up for the purpose of
monitoring and logging the activities of entities that probe, attack or
compromise it."

Cheers,
Christian.
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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 07:13AM
Perraju (perrajukv ideasp com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:08PM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:56PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:46PM
Etaoin Shrdlu (shrdlu deaddrop org)







 

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