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Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:23AM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (17 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 04:47AM
Bill McCarty (bmccarty apu edu) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 07:38PM
Scarecrow (scarecrow runeweaver com)
Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:30PM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (6 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 24 2003 02:29AM
Erik S. Johansen (security sperling no) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 25 2003 12:27AM
Jon Price (jon nytimes com)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:58PM
Jack McCarthy (lists jackmccarthy com) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 05:24PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:37PM
Steve Barnet (barnet chem wisc edu)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:05PM
Marc Dacier (marc dacier eurecom fr) (2 replies)
RE: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 04:07PM
David Gillett (gillettdavid fhda edu)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:35PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:48PM
Volker Tanger (volker tanger discon de) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:28PM
Tora (tagetora users sourceforge net)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:40PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 06:36PM
Chris Burton (cyberhiker99 yahoo com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 08:37AM
Fabien Pouget (Fabien Pouget eurecom fr)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 01:22AM
Per Gustav Ousdal (pgo-ml ousdal com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 09:37PM
Graeme Thompson (gdthompson optushome com au)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 07:56PM
David Goldsmith (dgoldsmith sans org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:49PM
Richard H. Cotterell (seec mail retina ar)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:06PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)

--- Lance Spitzner <lance (at) honeynet (dot) org [email concealed]> wrote:
> First, many people are including the term 'decoy' in the
> definition. While honeypots can 'decoy', I don't think
> that should be in the definition. The term decoy implies
> "to lure or entrap". Often honeypots don't lure. You just
> put them out there and the bad guys find them on their own
> intiative, nothing special is done to insare the attacker.
> The Honeynet Project has being doing this for years now.

Not sure I agree, Lance. To say you don't do anything "special" to lure
attackers to the honeynet is a bit dubious. You attempt to make your
honeypots look as much like real systems as possible. I would call that
using deception or artifice to insnare your prey.
If I'm a duck hunter I make my decoy look as much like a duck as
possible. I don't try to make it look better than a duck. By making
your honeypots look more like real systems you are making your decoys
look like the things your prey seeks.

I understand the desire to move away from the "negative' words like
decoy and deception but the fact is that is exactly what we're doing
and there's nothing wrong with it. I believe decoy is absolutely the
correct term for the honeynet.

There is a question whether a low-interaction honeypot like honeyd
deployed as an early warning system qualifies as a decoy. In this case
it is more akin to a trip wire or doorway sensor than it is to a decoy.
However, even in this scenario, we are still attempting to make a
"machine" look as much like a real host as possible. Thus, still a
decoy or a lure. When honeyd logs activity it is just like the
fisherman's lure bobbing in the water.

As they say "A rose by any other name..."

-J

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Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:37PM
Bernie, CTA (cta hcsin net) (1 replies)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 04:38AM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:30PM
Harish Pillay (harish maringotree com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:46PM
Rick Hayes (rhayes vicor com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:36PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 04:52PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:24PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 07:13AM
Perraju (perrajukv ideasp com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:08PM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:56PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:46PM
Etaoin Shrdlu (shrdlu deaddrop org)







 

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