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Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:23AM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (17 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 04:47AM
Bill McCarty (bmccarty apu edu) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 24 2003 07:38PM
Scarecrow (scarecrow runeweaver com)
Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:30PM
Lance Spitzner (lance honeynet org) (6 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 24 2003 02:29AM
Erik S. Johansen (security sperling no) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 25 2003 12:27AM
Jon Price (jon nytimes com)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:58PM
Jack McCarthy (lists jackmccarthy com) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 05:24PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:37PM
Steve Barnet (barnet chem wisc edu)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:05PM
Marc Dacier (marc dacier eurecom fr) (2 replies)
RE: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 04:07PM
David Gillett (gillettdavid fhda edu)
Marc Dacier wrote:

> I'll be a little bit provocative ... no offense please,
> I'm trying to get things moving :-}

I hope you'll accept this response in the same spirit.

> For instance, suppose that I install a honeypot behind my
> firewall where it should -hopefully- see nothing. I don't
> want to use that honeypot to monitor anything but, instead,
> to be a simplistic intrusion detection system. My policy
> states that, as soon as a single packet reaches the honeypot,
> my network must be disconnected from the internet because
> something is wrong with the firewall (ok, it's a silly
> example and a rather stupid reaction but bare with me :-) ).
>
> Based on this "usage", is this "information system resource"
> a honeypot ? I would tend to say yes but your definition
> leads me to believe that you would say no.

If all you use the system for is a *tripwire*, I can only see
one value-add in calling it a "honeypot": You may need to get
funding approval from someone whose whole knowledge of honeypots
is that "they're the latest cool security technology". That's
a purely local problem, not something the rest of the
world has to cope with....

Based on your usage above, I'd say that the definition you're
really suggesting is something like

A honeypot is an information resource that incorporates
elements whose creators intended them to be used as part
of something called a "honeypot", regardless of how that
resource is actually used in any particular instance.

A functional definition can only really be based on one or both
of two criteria:

(a) what it does

(b) what we do with it

If you cut away those supports, then it just means what the speaker
chooses it to mean at any given moment.

David Gillett

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Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:35PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:48PM
Volker Tanger (volker tanger discon de) (1 replies)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 03:28PM
Tora (tagetora users sourceforge net)
Re: Honeypot Defintion - Almost There! May 23 2003 02:40PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 06:36PM
Chris Burton (cyberhiker99 yahoo com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 08:37AM
Fabien Pouget (Fabien Pouget eurecom fr)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 01:22AM
Per Gustav Ousdal (pgo-ml ousdal com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 09:37PM
Graeme Thompson (gdthompson optushome com au)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 07:56PM
David Goldsmith (dgoldsmith sans org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:49PM
Richard H. Cotterell (seec mail retina ar)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 05:06PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:37PM
Bernie, CTA (cta hcsin net) (1 replies)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 04:38AM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 03:30PM
Harish Pillay (harish maringotree com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:46PM
Rick Hayes (rhayes vicor com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:36PM
Richard La Bella \(Florida Honeynet\) (richard sfhn org) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 04:52PM
Jeremy Bennett (jeremy_f_bennett yahoo com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:24PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org) (1 replies)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 21 2003 07:13AM
Perraju (perrajukv ideasp com)
RE: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 02:08PM
John McCracken (john mccrackenassociates com)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:56PM
Christian Kreibich (christian whoop org)
Re: Moving forward with defintion of honeypots May 20 2003 01:46PM
Etaoin Shrdlu (shrdlu deaddrop org)







 

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