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astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office Jul 28 2006 03:10PM
Daniel Jimenez (dgj1menez hotmail com) (1 replies)
Re: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office Jul 31 2006 10:00AM
Marios A. Spinthiras (mario netway com cy) (1 replies)
Re: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office Jul 31 2006 11:27PM
Daniel Jimenez (dgj1menez hotmail com) (1 replies)
Re: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office Aug 01 2006 06:00AM
Marios A. Spinthiras (mario netway com cy)
Thanks for your reply Daniel and your words are much apreciated. From
reading both your first and second post to the real cases mailing list I
have conducted my own thoughts when concerning the first post and fresh
thoughts upon the second.

We all know for a fact that the weakest part of security is indeed the human
factor. I have much apreciated books concerning Social Engineering by KM and
many others in which I have read regarding the human mind , the
interactivity we are offered by nature. Social Engineering is the
exploitation of that interactivity.

In this case it is pure theft. We arent talking about tricking someone to do
something , we are viewing a case of theft which is still a security breach
if you ask me.

People that keep such critical data on their laptop so easily accessible to
the next chump that has a tadbit more muscle coming down the street should
be fired and completely removed from any computer related business.
Computers deserve a certain level of respect and thus so do humans that
exist in records of a database of some hick computer user that doesnt
respect his own equipment. Dont respect the equipment = Not respecting the
job = Remove from computer business.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Jimenez" <dgj1menez (at) hotmail (dot) com [email concealed]>
To: <realcases (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
Cc: <mario (at) netway.com (dot) cy [email concealed]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office

> Greetings Mario,
>
> The point of my post is that this is a real case of security being
> breached, and not by any kind of computer hacking, but through simple
> physical stealing or "forgetfullness".
>
> Whether this is becomming a trend, or that information security media is
> reporting on it more often than before is a different story.
>
> My local news in the Los Angeles area, does NOT carry any of this
> information in the local TV media to my knowledge, if it does, it is late
> at night when most people are asleep anyway.
>
> To the point though, laptops are being stolen from big companies. Big
> companies should be more careful with where they leave their laptops. When
> I'm not using my laptop, I ALWAYS keep it so close to me, it was touching
> me, I never leave it out of my sight, or feeling.
>
> I subscribe to the theory that people are the weakest link in security,
> but they can also be the strongest if properly screened, trained,
> informed, and trained again. It's a lot like a garden, it is not all of a
> sudden done and then perfected, but tended to and maintained. And if it
> is a great garden, then each piece will complement and care for the other.
> There are a lot of good concepts out there for security, but for some
> reason, big business doesn't seem to be getting the picture.
>
> If my posting brings realization of that to subscribers from other big
> businesses, or re-affirms the security policies of other businesses, than
> I think I have made my point.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>>From: "Marios A. Spinthiras" <mario (at) netway.com (dot) cy [email concealed]>
>>To: <realcases (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
>>Subject: Re: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:00:08 +0300
>
>>Daniel,
>>
>>Whats the point of your post? Id like to think its with regards to
>>security breaches in terms of the weakest link - human beings? If so..
>>please reply back. I do have my two pence concerning the possible issue
>>you have brought up with this case...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Marios A. Spinthiras
>>NetWay Ltd
>>Nicosia, Cyprus
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jimenez"
>><dgj1menez (at) hotmail (dot) com [email concealed]>
>>To: <realcases (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
>>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:10 PM
>>Subject: astalavista.com: Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office
>>
>>
>>>Laptop Lifted from Data Provider's Office
>>>Published 18:20:00 25.07.2006
>>>
>>>Tack on another case in what seems to be an epidemic of laptop thefts and
>>>losses: Wolters Kluwer, a Dutch business information publisher, earlier
>>>this month informed U.S. employees that a laptop with data on 8,500
>>>current and former workers was stolen from a payroll department office
>>>over Memorial Day weekend.In a letter dated July 11, Mark Sherman, chief
>>>human-resources officer of Wolters Kluwer in North America, said the
>>>company discovered on May 29 that a laptop and docking station had been
>>>taken from a locked, private office in Torrance, Calif., a suburb of Los
>>>Angeles.
>>>
>>>http://www.astalavista.com/?section=news&cmd=details&newsid=2481
>>>or
>>>http://tinyurl.com/erskk
>>>
>>>Daniel Jimenez
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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