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Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 17 2008 09:54PM
Robin Wood (dninja gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 19 2008 08:12AM
Robin Wood (dninja gmail com)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 02:40AM
The Dark Sniper (thedarksniper gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 06:57PM
Blaine Fleming (groups digital-z com) (1 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 10:20PM
Rob Fuller (jd mubix gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 11:00PM
Blaine Fleming (groups digital-z com)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 02:21PM
Dave Hull (dphull trustedsignal com) (1 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 07:01PM
jesse michael (jesse michael comcast net) (2 replies)
RE: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 09:48PM
Jag Mohan Singh Kalkal (jag kalkal gmail com)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 18 2008 09:08PM
Zacheusz Siedlecki (zacheuszs gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 19 2008 12:29AM
jesse michael (jesse michael comcast net) (2 replies)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:08:17PM +0200, Zacheusz Siedlecki wrote:
> I think it's not about details. It's about statistic and probality of
> intrusion (Bruce is god at maths). It's difficult to strike a good
> balance between security and usability of system. Bruce found it for
> his home network. Attack on desktop from Internet is more probable
> than script-kiddie-wardriver in neighborhood so it's not worth a
> thing. Ithink it's about ideology also (Linux vs Windows, close vs
> open).

Sure, statistically, the average person isn't likely to have someone
attack their wireless network like that, but if there's something
unusual about the target (e.g. you're very well known in the security
community and have essentially dared people to compromise your network),
the usual threat/risk calculations will need to be adjusted.

I fully expect to read another news article at some point in the
future about Schneier ending up talking to the police about having
his network compromised because he's just advertised to the world that
he has not even bothered to taken trivial steps to secure it.

There's an argument that could be made that by leaving the network
unprotected, he has plausible deniability if illegal acts are made
from his network connection, but that hasn't been tested in court
as far as I know, and I'd rather not be a test case for such things.

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Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 19 2008 03:28PM
Zacheusz Siedlecki (zacheuszs gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 19 2008 04:56PM
Jamie Riden (jamie riden gmail com)
Re: Bruce doesn't secure his wireless Jun 19 2008 05:04AM
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