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SSH attacks? Jul 26 2004 10:59PM
Robin (robin kallisti net nz) (10 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:31AM
David Block (dave yucc yorku ca)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 04:33AM
brandy (brandy klammeraffe org) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 12:22AM
Andrew J Caines (A J Caines halplant com) (3 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:12PM
Brian C. Lane (bcl brianlane com)
RE: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 06:32PM
Herman Frederick Ebeling Jr. (hfebelingjr lycos com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:22PM
Marcus Merrin (marcus merrin emptyair com) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 12:58AM
Robin (robin kallisti net nz)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 12:18AM
Mike Whitley (mwhitley borg proceon com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 09:12PM
buzz (reitenba fh-brandenburg de) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 07:05PM
Jyri Hovila (jyri hovila iki fi) (4 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 05:40AM
Thomas Hochstein (ml ancalagon inka de)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 07:03PM
Chris Brenton (cbrenton chrisbrenton org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:03PM
Matt Beland (matt rearviewmirror org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:02PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 06:42PM
Jyri Hovila (jyri hovila iki fi)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 08:46PM
Adam Young (adam vbfx com) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 08:19AM
Christine Kronberg (Christine_Kronberg genua de) (3 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 04:53PM
Steve Schuster (sjs74 cornell edu)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 04:05PM
Merlijn Tishauser (merlijn begeleidingentraining nl)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 09:21AM
Pieter-Bas IJdens (pieter-bas ijdens com) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 12:38AM
Jay D. Dyson (jdyson treachery net) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 31 2004 12:06AM
mgotts 2roads com
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 31 2004 12:05AM
Frank Knobbe (frank knobbe us)
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 19:38, Jay D. Dyson wrote:
> That practice affords no security benefit. Any scanner worth its
> salt (no pun...really) can identify a service even if it's running on a
> non-standard port. Nessus does this, as do a host of other scanners.

I beg to differ. Yeah, Nessus and decent scanners will identify SSH on
other ports, but the script kiddies, "nmap -sS -p 22" type scans, and
any worms or automated attack tools will most likely miss it. I'm sure
you know about low-hanging fruit. I believe changing to a different port
is like hanging your fruit a bit higher. Let the masses reach for "the
other guys" SSH port instead...

Sure, that concept (changing ports, call it obfuscation if you must)
doesn't increase security of your host, but it alters the threat level
in your favor.

> For my own part, I set my firewall rulesets to default deny any IP
> that is not specifically blessed for interactive login. For example, I do
> not have any users who live in Asia, Europe, Canada, South America or
> Africa. Thus, those netblocks are not allowed to connect on 22/TCP.
> This helps limit the attack vectors while still allowing my users access
> to the systems they require.

This is certainly the best way to approach this. Blocking all by
default, and allowing only access to SSH from those networks where you
know you or your users are in.

The same should also be applied to any other type of VPN, being it IPSec
or PPTP or whatever. While authentication is required, there is still no
reason to expose the interface to the whole world. It would help
security greatly to default-block and allow VPN access from those areas
from which access is expected.

Cheers,
Frank

[ reply ]
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:12AM
Christine Kronberg (Christine_Kronberg genua de) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 01:26AM
Frank Knobbe (frank knobbe us)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:44AM
Pieter-Bas IJdens (pieter-bas ijdens com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 07:21PM
Tom Laermans (tom laermans powersource cx)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 07:17PM
Chris Brown (chris wavetex com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:24PM
Jason Falciola (falciola us ibm com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:15PM
Paul Schmehl (pauls utdallas edu) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 06:37PM
George Georgalis (george galis org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:06PM
Josh Tolley (josh raintreeinc com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:00PM
Tobias Rice (rice up edu) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 03:43AM
Chris Brenton (cbrenton chrisbrenton org)


 

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