Incidents
SSH attacks? Jul 26 2004 10:59PM
Robin (robin kallisti net nz) (10 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:31AM
David Block (dave yucc yorku ca)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 04:33AM
brandy (brandy klammeraffe org) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 12:22AM
Andrew J Caines (A J Caines halplant com) (3 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:12PM
Brian C. Lane (bcl brianlane com)
RE: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 06:32PM
Herman Frederick Ebeling Jr. (hfebelingjr lycos com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:22PM
Marcus Merrin (marcus merrin emptyair com) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 12:58AM
Robin (robin kallisti net nz)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 12:18AM
Mike Whitley (mwhitley borg proceon com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 09:12PM
buzz (reitenba fh-brandenburg de) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 07:05PM
Jyri Hovila (jyri hovila iki fi) (4 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 05:40AM
Thomas Hochstein (ml ancalagon inka de)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 07:03PM
Chris Brenton (cbrenton chrisbrenton org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:03PM
Matt Beland (matt rearviewmirror org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 05:02PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 06:42PM
Jyri Hovila (jyri hovila iki fi)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 08:46PM
Adam Young (adam vbfx com) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 08:19AM
Christine Kronberg (Christine_Kronberg genua de) (3 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 04:53PM
Steve Schuster (sjs74 cornell edu)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 04:05PM
Merlijn Tishauser (merlijn begeleidingentraining nl)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 09:21AM
Pieter-Bas IJdens (pieter-bas ijdens com) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 12:38AM
Jay D. Dyson (jdyson treachery net) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 31 2004 12:06AM
mgotts 2roads com
> > If you are so worried about SSH security who don't you just run sshd
on
> > a non-standard port.
>
> That practice affords no security benefit. Any scanner worth its
> salt (no pun...really) can identify a service even if it's running on a
> non-standard port. Nessus does this, as do a host of other scanners.

It certainly does afford a security benefit.

The issue isn't whether or not there are tools that can identify a service
on a nonstandard port (as you note, such tools are readily available). The
issue -- especially in this case -- is that such scanning of all 65535
ports is not being done by the worms and other automated attack tools
being discussed. These sorts of attacks are going after the low-hanging
fruit, the easy exploit and, if a worm, frequently looking for rapid
infection rates. Scanning every port doesn't provide enough benefit to the
attacker to be useful, especially considering that you can argue that
anybody who bothers to change the port probably is also at least minimally
aware of security.

Is it *good* security? No. Will an attacker who is specifically trying to
penetrate your network be stopped? Of course not. But will it prevent a
worm from zapping you in a day-0 exploit and give you time to patch or
disable the service? Yes.

Had you said "little security benefit", I'd agree. But to say "no security
benefit" is just silly.

-- Mark

[ reply ]
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 31 2004 12:05AM
Frank Knobbe (frank knobbe us)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:12AM
Christine Kronberg (Christine_Kronberg genua de) (2 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 01:26AM
Frank Knobbe (frank knobbe us)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 29 2004 10:44AM
Pieter-Bas IJdens (pieter-bas ijdens com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 07:21PM
Tom Laermans (tom laermans powersource cx)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 07:17PM
Chris Brown (chris wavetex com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:24PM
Jason Falciola (falciola us ibm com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:15PM
Paul Schmehl (pauls utdallas edu) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 30 2004 06:37PM
George Georgalis (george galis org)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:06PM
Josh Tolley (josh raintreeinc com)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 27 2004 06:00PM
Tobias Rice (rice up edu) (1 replies)
Re: SSH attacks? Jul 28 2004 03:43AM
Chris Brenton (cbrenton chrisbrenton org)


 

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