I believe that the software will cease to function as opposed to
violating any sort of licensing agreements.
I believe that running the Intelligent scan is far different from
running the full scan, which may be why there are different results with
different spyware products. So far I have had great luck with
Microsoft's Anti-spyware, but have found that spybot and adaware neither
find even 90% of the spyware and are often useless against the newest
spyware.
We pay an arm and a leg for products like Norton A/V Corporate Edition,
I venture to guess we would do the Same with Microsoft Anti-Spam
Corporate Edition.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaffer, Bruce [mailto:BShaffer (at) PRAC (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:50 PM
To: 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I just installed the MS Antispyware tool with the default install,
updated the signatures then ran the default scan. It came back with no
spyware detected.
I then brought up Spybot, updated his files and ran the default scan.
He returned 5 registry keys, a pile of cookies and a browser hijack.
Cleaned this up.
Next I ran Adaware, updated files, etc. Adaware came back with 10 more
cookies.
The point I am trying to make here is that there is so much spyware out
there and antispyware is so young and doesn't enjoy the information
sharing between researchers that AV does, nothing will catch even 50% of
known spyware.
I read a review in the last couple of months that stated that there were
approximately 29.5 million pieces of known spyware and of those, 5
million were programs. The number may be a little high, but if you
think about it, there are about 100,000 known viruses and worms authored
in the past 19 years and none of these were commissioned by marketers.
People get paid to write spyware so the 8 figure total is not
unrealistic.
If we had a program that could incorporate all of these signatures,
would we be able to do daily or weekly scans? How about monthly?
One thing I haven't seen anyone comment on yet is: does this drop its
own spyware? Most of the $$ products do, Ad-aware and Spybot do not.
For home machines I overlap my favorite two products, for enterprise, I
use Spybot only. I would be leery of installing any "free for a time"
software on the enterprise. What's going to happen when you don't get
budget to purchase this next July? More $$ for the MS lawyers or a
scramble for your techs to uninstall before someone notices you're using
unlicensed software?
Just my opinion.
D. Bruce Shaffer, CISSP
Information Security Engineer
PRAC.COM
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuen, Steven [mailto:Steven.Yuen (at) ubs (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'John Fleming'; 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I have been using it as well and it is more thorough than some of the
others I've used. So far, it is stable.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fleming [mailto:jfleming (at) creativeventuresofboca (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:39 PM
To: 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I only installed it on one machine so far and have had no problems.
Seems to
work very well. A little slow it seems when removing spy ware, but I
believe
it may be more thorough plus it is a Beta version. I'm sure there will
be
many improvements. An MSI package would be nice to rollout using Group
Policy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Serbanescu [mailto:rods (at) loanstillpayday (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:00 PM
To: 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I've allready installed it on 4 machines and it works great, it beats
all
the other ones that are out there put together. The only problem with it
atm
is that it is still beta and sometimes it freezes for a bit, other then
that
it works great and has options that many other apps are lacking. This is
a
welcome change.
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn S. [mailto:glenn (at) secureinformation (dot) net [email concealed]]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:27 PM
To: Danny; Focus-MS
Subject: Re: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
Microsoft recently acquired Anti-spyware company Giant and is now making
their Anti-spyware tool available for free download if anyone is
interested:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny" <nocmonkey (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]>
To: "Focus-MS" <focus-ms (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:38 AM
Subject: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
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I believe that the software will cease to function as opposed to
violating any sort of licensing agreements.
I believe that running the Intelligent scan is far different from
running the full scan, which may be why there are different results with
different spyware products. So far I have had great luck with
Microsoft's Anti-spyware, but have found that spybot and adaware neither
find even 90% of the spyware and are often useless against the newest
spyware.
We pay an arm and a leg for products like Norton A/V Corporate Edition,
I venture to guess we would do the Same with Microsoft Anti-Spam
Corporate Edition.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaffer, Bruce [mailto:BShaffer (at) PRAC (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:50 PM
To: 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I just installed the MS Antispyware tool with the default install,
updated the signatures then ran the default scan. It came back with no
spyware detected.
I then brought up Spybot, updated his files and ran the default scan.
He returned 5 registry keys, a pile of cookies and a browser hijack.
Cleaned this up.
Next I ran Adaware, updated files, etc. Adaware came back with 10 more
cookies.
The point I am trying to make here is that there is so much spyware out
there and antispyware is so young and doesn't enjoy the information
sharing between researchers that AV does, nothing will catch even 50% of
known spyware.
I read a review in the last couple of months that stated that there were
approximately 29.5 million pieces of known spyware and of those, 5
million were programs. The number may be a little high, but if you
think about it, there are about 100,000 known viruses and worms authored
in the past 19 years and none of these were commissioned by marketers.
People get paid to write spyware so the 8 figure total is not
unrealistic.
If we had a program that could incorporate all of these signatures,
would we be able to do daily or weekly scans? How about monthly?
One thing I haven't seen anyone comment on yet is: does this drop its
own spyware? Most of the $$ products do, Ad-aware and Spybot do not.
For home machines I overlap my favorite two products, for enterprise, I
use Spybot only. I would be leery of installing any "free for a time"
software on the enterprise. What's going to happen when you don't get
budget to purchase this next July? More $$ for the MS lawyers or a
scramble for your techs to uninstall before someone notices you're using
unlicensed software?
Just my opinion.
D. Bruce Shaffer, CISSP
Information Security Engineer
PRAC.COM
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuen, Steven [mailto:Steven.Yuen (at) ubs (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'John Fleming'; 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I have been using it as well and it is more thorough than some of the
others I've used. So far, it is stable.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fleming [mailto:jfleming (at) creativeventuresofboca (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:39 PM
To: 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I only installed it on one machine so far and have had no problems.
Seems to
work very well. A little slow it seems when removing spy ware, but I
believe
it may be more thorough plus it is a Beta version. I'm sure there will
be
many improvements. An MSI package would be nice to rollout using Group
Policy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Serbanescu [mailto:rods (at) loanstillpayday (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:00 PM
To: 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
I've allready installed it on 4 machines and it works great, it beats
all
the other ones that are out there put together. The only problem with it
atm
is that it is still beta and sometimes it freezes for a bit, other then
that
it works great and has options that many other apps are lacking. This is
a
welcome change.
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn S. [mailto:glenn (at) secureinformation (dot) net [email concealed]]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:27 PM
To: Danny; Focus-MS
Subject: Re: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
Microsoft recently acquired Anti-spyware company Giant and is now making
their Anti-spyware tool available for free download if anyone is
interested:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny" <nocmonkey (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]>
To: "Focus-MS" <focus-ms (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:38 AM
Subject: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available
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numbers, passwords or other non-public information in your email.
Because
the information contained in this message may be privileged,
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proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure, please notify us
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