Focus on IDS
Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 03:29PM
Anton Chuvakin (anton chuvakin org) (6 replies)
Gartner comments (was Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Jun 17 2003 05:28PM
Randy Taylor (gnu charm net)
Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 10:17PM
George W. Capehart (gwc capehassoc com)
Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 09:12PM
Jerry M. Howell II (jmhowell jmhowell com)
Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 08:17PM
Paul Schmehl (pauls utdallas edu)
Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 08:06PM
adam (eggroid hotpop com) (1 replies)
Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like pagedefacement to me Jun 17 2003 07:27PM
Remko Lodder (remko elvandar org) (1 replies)
Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like pagedefacement to me Jun 18 2003 04:33PM
Paul Schmehl (pauls utdallas edu)
Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jun 13 2003 08:03PM
Michael Sierchio (kudzu tenebras com)
Anton Chuvakin wrote:

> My first impression was that it is a page defacement, so outrageous some
> claims are. For instance, did you know that IDS actually _cause_ incident
> response to happen? :-) Or this gem : "Money Slated for Intrusion
> Detection Should Be Invested in Firewalls"?

It's true that IDS is in its infancy, that many components have
a high cost of ownership, etc. But none of the claims made were
supported by the facts offered. Maybe it *is* a spoof. ;-) It
wasn't dated April 1, though.

I found the slap against intrusion prevention to be really weird --
if by this we mean running audits (w/nessus et al) and hardening
systems or shutting off vulnerable services.

Also, there's only so much you can spend on firewalls -- and it's
not an either/or spending decision, and those of us *with* firewalls
are pursuing security in depth, and want host and network IDS, too.

It's a standard journalistic pose to debunk hype -- since Gartner
was responsible for so much of it during the Dot Com Bubble, maybe
this is their bid to regain credibility? They want to claim that
their hype cycles are a valuation tool for technology companies.

Can you cure voodoo with voodoo? Who's hyping what here?

Gartner Hype Cycle for Information Security, 2003
Price: US $ 495.00
Pages: 12

Dada is not dead -- watch your overcoat!

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