Focus on IDS
Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 01:09AM
Jonathon (thejunkjon gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 05:50PM
Paul Palmer (paul_palmer us ibm com)
Re: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 04:15PM
Aaron Turner (synfinatic gmail com) (1 replies)
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Jonathon<thejunkjon (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
> I am writing my own IDS.  I have a packet sniffer + TCP reassembler
> that I've written.  For each stream I detect, I have to keep some
> state + a buffer of the packets for the stream.  However, a problem
> that I've run into is that sometimes packets could get lost (meaning I
> do not capture them, but they were actually sent/received between two
> hosts on the network).  If I do drop the packets, my current
> implementation gets all messed up since I never end up freeing the
> resources I've allocated for that stream.  So, lost packets seem to be
> the bain of my current implementation.
>
> My question is (assuming all TCP streams), how can I determine whether
> a packet is lost by just looking at packets that I currently have in
> my buffer?
>
> The packets could come in any order so just because I receive a packet
> with seq #N, doesn't mean that a packet with seq #N-1 was sent.
>
> I hope this is the appropriate mailing list for my question.

If you track the values of the Ack's in packets then you'll know when
you've dropped one or more TCP segments which were received by the
other end.

Example:

Assume server sends 3 packets with Sequence numbers of 10, 50 and 100.
But you only see 10 & 100. If the client only Ack's 10, then you
know it didn't see 50 either. But if it Ack's 100 then you know it
saw data you missed.

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Aaron Turner
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http://tcpreplay.synfin.net/ - Pcap editing and replay tools for Unix & Windows
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Re: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 05:43PM
Jonathon (thejunkjon gmail com) (1 replies)
RE: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 06:49PM
Francis, Shannon (Shannon Francis jetblue com) (1 replies)
Re: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ? Jul 16 2009 09:35PM
Martin Roesch (roesch sourcefire com)


 

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