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Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 12:46PM
Rahul Chander Kashyap (rahul nsecure net) (6 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 28 2002 03:36AM
K K Mookhey (cto nii co in)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 11:16PM
Bob Bruen (coldrain sover net)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 06:17PM
Dana Epp (dana vulscan com)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 06:03PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu (2 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 28 2002 07:40AM
Glynn Clements (glynn clements virgin net) (2 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 29 2002 12:35AM
Cesar (cesarc56 yahoo com)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 28 2002 07:04PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin wirex com)
RE: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 08:51PM
Roger Alexander (rta cs colostate edu) (1 replies)
RE: Writing Secure code Dec 30 2002 12:41PM
Matt McClellan (mmcclellan nfr com) (2 replies)
RE: Writing Secure code Jan 01 2003 02:46AM
peleus (peleus peleus net) (1 replies)
RE: Writing Secure code Jan 03 2003 04:36AM
Timo Sirainen (tss iki fi)
On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 04:46, peleus wrote:
> Having said that, you can get into a more specific discussions of
> the security attacks that software programmers are responsible for and how
> they can prevent them. If a library the programmer uses is flawed, is it
> his software's flaw or the libraries flaw? Is the programmer responsible
> for all the libraries his code includes? These type of specific
> definitions define whether software is "secure". Security is a relative
> measurement.

I think a fault in library is always the fault of it, not the software
that uses it. It does anyway reflect badly on the software itself, so
verifying safe usage of a library is a good idea.

For libraries that you have to use and auditing would be too time consuming
(eg. libc) you can still try to use it safely by not using functions that
could be dangerous (eg. glob()) and not allowing parameters that could be
dangerous (eg. large integers, to avoid overflows). vsftpd did this pretty
nicely by wrapping all external library calls and doing sanity checks to
them.

If the library is needed only for a small part of the operation of whole
software, it could be isolated in separate non-privileged process. I don't
trust SSL libraries, so I just assume they're flawed and give them a
somewhat safe playground.

Code also tends to break at incapable hands, so if I go through the effort
of auditing some library, I'll specify in documentation what versions I
consider safe. Auditing newer versions become simpler then if you can just
diff it against a known safe version.

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Re: Writing Secure code[update] Dec 31 2002 10:20AM
Rahul Chander Kashyap (rahul nsecure net) (2 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code[update] Jan 01 2003 12:21PM
K K Mookhey (cto nii co in) (2 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code[update] Jan 04 2003 12:31AM
Warwick Molloy (wmolloy optushome com au)
Re: Writing Secure code[update] Jan 02 2003 11:55PM
Alex Russell (alex netWindows org)
Re: Writing Secure code[update] Dec 31 2002 08:28PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin wirex com)
RE: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 05:46PM
Jeremy Epstein (jepstein webmethods com) (1 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 08:50PM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 05:43PM
John Viega (viega list org) (2 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 09:54PM
Alex Russell (alex netWindows org) (1 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 08:57PM
John Viega (viega list org)
RE: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 08:59PM
Matt McClellan (mcc nfr com) (1 replies)
Re: Writing Secure code Dec 27 2002 09:06PM
John Viega (viega list org)







 

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