Secure Programming
Charging customers on security Sep 23 2004 05:16PM
King Pang (kingpang gmail com) (6 replies)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 29 2004 02:25PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 12:26AM
Thor (thor hammerofgod com)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 05:24PM
Yvan Boily (yboily seccuris com)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 01:47PM
Chris Matthews (cmatthews xn com) (1 replies)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:36PM
King Pang (kingpang gmail com) (3 replies)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 09:51AM
Andreas Krügersen (phoenix wyverex-cave net)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 09:00AM
Koen Vingerhoets (koen vingerhoets ubench be)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 05:53PM
Chris Matthews (cmatthews xn com)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 08:37AM
exon (exon home se)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 26 2004 10:40PM
wirepair (wirepair roguemail net) (7 replies)
Charging for security of your own applications? That seems pretty backwards to me. Why should
the client who buys your software with the expectation that it works and is secure have to
pay for the fact that it isn't? So when my seat belts are broken, and my tires randomly explode,
I have to pay the car manufacturer more money to get these features fixed?

duh?
-wire

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:16:40 -0700
King Pang <kingpang (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Our company developers Microsoft Solutions and I am responsible for
> leading the security initiative in the corporation. I have spent a
> lot of time and effort on how we should apply security guidance to our
> product life cycle, such as adding threat modeling and doing security
> review. But after I have convinced them that security is important,
> we brought up a discussion on how we should charge our customers.
>
> Many of you have customer experience. They want to pay the minimum
> and have all the features. If they can choose not to pay, they won't.
> If we tell them threat modeling will add x human-weeks of development
> and we have to charge them x thousand dollars more, they won't pay.
> Moreover, they expect the system to be secure enough and if there is
> anything wrong, they would think that is our fault.
>
> If any of you have any experience on dealing security with customers
> and how you would deal with this issue, please throw in two cents. Any
> comments or related articles would help too.
>
> Warm Regards.

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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:20PM
Adam Shostack (adam homeport org) (1 replies)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 08:33PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 03:18PM
Jeff Williams (jeff williams aspectsecurity com)
Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 01:57PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 03:12AM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 10:31PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 08:29PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 29 2004 05:39PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 29 2004 09:21PM
Yvan Boily (yboily seccuris com)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:24PM
Koen Vingerhoets (koen vingerhoets ubench be)
RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 01:07PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 07:45AM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:42AM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:33AM
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