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Charging customers on security Sep 23 2004 05:16PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 09:51AM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 26 2004 10:40PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:20PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 08:33PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 03:18PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 01:57PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 03:12AM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 10:31PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 28 2004 08:29PM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 29 2004 05:39PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 29 2004 09:21PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:24PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 01:07PM
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RE: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 07:45AM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:42AM
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Re: Charging customers on security Sep 27 2004 04:33AM
Steve Friedl (steve unixwiz net)
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:40:29PM -0800, wirepair wrote:
> Charging for security of your own applications? That seems pretty backwards
> to me. Why should the client who buys your software with the expectation that
> it works and is secure have to pay for the fact that it isn't? So when my
> seat belts are broken, and my tires randomly explode, I have to pay the car
> manufacturer more money to get these features fixed?

If you're paying an engineering firm to design some new seat belts, they
may want to smash up a few cars with crash dummies to test them.

You might or might not want to pay for that.

Steve

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