Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2001-10-25
American coders will be kept in the dark about some Linux security updates, amid DMCA fears.
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-25
Anonymous (5 replies)
Anonymous (5 replies)
Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
Stauph (2 replies)
Stauph (2 replies)
I have an open request for the people in America affected by this bill...which includes myself. Lately the government has passed laws limiting our freedoms without giving us any tangible evidence of benefit. I say that if we are all so sore, we should do something that will cause change. That cha...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details - My View
2001-10-29
c.barbet
c.barbet
I whole heartedly agree with Stauph! Now for the other individuals that feel Alan Cox is taking it too far... Maybe he is. However can you blame Alan? Let's think about it. Why should Alan have to worry about an American law that Americans passed? Did enough Americans stand up and let their voic...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-29
Anonymous
Anonymous
How can they "withhold" the number of security patches made to U.S. coders when they are distributing the source code?@?#%#@?%?#@? This seems rather absurd. Way back in the beginning somebody wrote a program called 'diff'. Granted it might be nice if somebody came out and said 'this is what we pa...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
kenetiks
kenetiks
This is what happens when you have lawmakers with a technical IQ of 3, they governing body should not be allowed to govern what they do not comprihend or cannot understand.
This is why I have an EXTREME problem with anyone being charged with a computer crime. The courts say that one will be judge...
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This is why I have an EXTREME problem with anyone being charged with a computer crime. The courts say that one will be judge...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
Anonymous
Anonymous
If anyone can supply more information on this subject please post it here. I would like to know of people I can contact regarding the DMCA and I would like to know what I can do to abolish this "Act". Our freedoms are being flushed down the drain mainly because of these politicians thinking ./kids a...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
Halvar Flake
Halvar Flake
Mrs Granick's statement is correct, on the other
hand it is true that security (general security)
issues in Operating Systems might in the future be
an issue of the DMCA as well:
Imagine the owner of a computer running an operating
system which only loads cryptographically signed drivers
by ...
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hand it is true that security (general security)
issues in Operating Systems might in the future be
an issue of the DMCA as well:
Imagine the owner of a computer running an operating
system which only loads cryptographically signed drivers
by ...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
Anonymous
Anonymous
Alan Cox is threatening the Linux community with his action. He holds his personal political views as being more important than the Linux community. It's time for him to either grow up or hand off his responsibilities to someone who will promote Linux and Open Source, not other agendas....
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Taking a situation to its illogical conclusion
2001-10-26
Just another computer guy
Just another computer guy
I have to agree with those quoted in this article that, while I wholly respect Mr. Cox and what he's done for the Linux community, this seems a bit like a case of intentionally misinterpreting the law to make a political statement. While I truly disagree with the DMCA, this approach to it seems com...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-26
Anonymous
Anonymous
I wonder if posting information about security flaws
(presumeably so that one could fix it)
inadvertantly enabling microsofts so called cyber-terrorists (trojan/worm/virus authors)
would allow the US to lock a programmer up for life?
While I think it is extreme of Alan, I do understand his po...
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(presumeably so that one could fix it)
inadvertantly enabling microsofts so called cyber-terrorists (trojan/worm/virus authors)
would allow the US to lock a programmer up for life?
While I think it is extreme of Alan, I do understand his po...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-27
John Gehman (3 replies)
John Gehman (3 replies)
It is unfortunate that Cox is doing this. I've been championing a corporate shift to Linux, but no longer. The only thing worse than an unstable OS, is a fragmented, unstable development effort of an OS that is struggling for acceptance. I have serious reservations about Linuxs' future viability...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-28
Answer to John Gehman and other critics
Answer to John Gehman and other critics
You should better start fighting for democracy in the country which pretends to be the most democratic in the world (which in the last few months has become about as true as this was in Soviet Union in the mid-70s - I was born there, I know what I am talking about), instead of critizising Alan for ...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-29
Go Alan!
Go Alan!
I think Alan is within his rights denying the US security information concerning the Linux kernel. The DMCA is looked upon by US citicens as a private affair but this is clearly not the case for let's say Sklyarov. As long as US egocentric and destructive view of copyright is free to influence our l...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-29
Andy Wood
Andy Wood
I don't get what all the fuss is about John. Isn't this what people are asking for by letting the DMCA stip away the rights to view what is 'under the hood'? If the DMCA stands that is what will happen. Then the lack of security information wont be an omission but a fact of life backed by law....
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Sure this sucks, but guess what??
2001-10-28
Andy Wood
Andy Wood
....what Cox has done is exactly what the DCMA is all about. If it is left to continue spiraling out of control we will lose control over security all together. No dount he is pissed @ the US. We let crap programmers issue code that is has gaping holes and then take it out on the individuals and ...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-29
Anonymous (NOT a US citizen)
Anonymous (NOT a US citizen)
Linux is open source and global. Open source means that if somebody wants to make a special version of it, they can. But it is then no longer open source, and shouldn't be called Linux. If Mr Cox wants to make his own version for the US market, that's fine by me so long as he calls it something else...
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Thefreeworld.net
2001-10-29
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Alan's changelog is available from thefreeworld.net, that is, available to all except US citizens and residents.
I guess the US is just practicing economic darwinism, with themselves on the losing end of the stick ;)...
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I guess the US is just practicing economic darwinism, with themselves on the losing end of the stick ;)...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-29
SChoe [at] cheaptickets [dot] com
SChoe [at] cheaptickets [dot] com
I don't see why Mr. Cox is taking such a pessimistic and fearful approach to what amounts to unconstitutional, and thus, unlawful and illegal activities of the DMCA and those who advocate the DMCA.
I would be very interested to know who will not be given access to the information which Mr. Cox is...
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I would be very interested to know who will not be given access to the information which Mr. Cox is...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
Never lower your values to adapt to a situation that seems to ask for this. It's the same as with terrorrism: when we resort to terror we lower ourselves to using a physical toolset that does not belong to our value system. But it's what the terrorists want, for so we disrupt our own society in a wa...
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Linux Update withholds Security Details
2001-10-30
Coldman
Coldman
I guess this action from Alan is to protect US residents from DMCA, nothing more.
Anyway, in our today's wired world, there is virtually no opportunity to hide something, so don't worry - you (being an US citizen/resident) can download whatever you want, though in discussed case it will make you ...
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Anyway, in our today's wired world, there is virtually no opportunity to hide something, so don't worry - you (being an US citizen/resident) can download whatever you want, though in discussed case it will make you ...
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Gee, this sounds familiar
2001-10-31
Anonymous
Anonymous
This is starting to sound more and more like the gun debate in the US. An ammendment to the U.S. Constitution might give people the right to do something, but politicians and lawyers will do their damned-est to find a way around the right, including using all kinds of lies to sell the ignorant publ...
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Perception is reality
2001-10-31
Anonymous
Anonymous
DMCA is a crock. It's poorly thought out, and almost as poorly written. OK, one legal scholar doesn't think DMCA is quite as draconian as Alan Cox does. Isn't there an old legal dictum that the law says what the courts say it says? And after DOJ's kowtowing to Adobe in the Sklyarov case, who kno...
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Digital Millennium Copyright Act + USA Act by a 98-1 vote =
ByeBye OpenFreedom..
* sigh *
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