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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research
Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2003-04-14

Steganography and honeypot expert Niels Provos may risk four years in prison by completing his Ph.D.

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-14
wearmg (at) inhs (dot) org [email concealed]
Wouldn't this make cooperate firewalls & proxies illegal if they do NAT?...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-14
excitable_boy(_a_)spray.se (1 replies)
"any device or software that conceals "the existence or place of origin or destination of any telecommunications service." "

So... according to this, is it still legal for telephone companies to stay operative?

When you make a phone call, you get redirected through several switches along the way...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-15
Anonymous
Doesn't such a law also make it illegal to

use services like caller-id blocking?...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-14
Anonymous
The U.S needs to open his eyes and solve this problem. Because if not, very soon the U.S will be unprotected from other countrys because admnistrators wouldn't be able to use some important tools to protect their servers. Other countrys will improve their knowledge about security because they allow ...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-15
MERLiiN
Not to mention that windows would be illegal!?!!?!

Microsoft Windows (most versions) allows masquerading and has a built in firewall (newer versions).

It's true that it seems like possession of technology itself has become a crime. A sad day for ''lawful good'' characters.

MERLiiN...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-15
sij2@ telia.com
My phone displays the number of the calling party. Except when the phone company decides to hide the number of a caller with an unlisted number. How is that done in Michigan?...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-15
Drew Sullivan
Does this mean that ALL cell phone now must

provide caller id?

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'Super-DMCA' in Oregon 2003-04-15
Fantom Code (3 replies)
Ok guys and gals,

I was just reading the Bill for Oregon. It says that an 'Access device' means anything that is intended to be used to facilitate the interception, transmission, retransmission, acquisition, decryption or receipt of a communication service. That gives me the impression that ownin...

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'Super-DMCA' in Oregon 2003-04-15
Anonymous
That's the biggest problem with these bills. The definitions are way too broad....

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'Super-DMCA' in Oregon 2003-04-15
Anonymous (1 replies)
A little further down 'Communication service' is defined as follows:

(3) 'Communication service' means any service that is available only for compensation...

Meaning a service that one is expected to pay for....

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RE: 'Super-DMCA' in Oregon (Anonymous Response) 2003-04-15
Fantom Code
Ok,

That makes alot more sense. I'm still a little worried about many aspects of this law. First, supposedly "we the people" voted for it, and I knew nothing of it. Second, people have brought up the question about firewalls, and NAT. If I can't conceal my systems lawfully, then that's not right....

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Re: 'Super-DMCA' in Oregon 2003-04-15
Anonymous
> Can someone explain this nonsense? Thanks.

of course. in the former east block countries there

has been a philosophy that it should be impossible to remain legal for a normal

citisen so that the ruling power always has a reason to come in and arrest you.

(like having a speed limit of 40km/h o...

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Who writes these laws anyway 2003-04-15
Anonymous
This is a great example of what happens when legislators let special interest lobbyists write the bills. The lobbyists are narrow in their focus, caring only about the interests of their clients, in this case apparently the MPAA, without a care about the public interest in general. The legislators...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-15
Anonymous
It is obvious from the wording of the law that it is intended to stop telemarketers dead in their tracks. What I don't understand is how this law effects the HoneyNet project. It's not really a Super-DMCA in that is has no specific mention of copyright at all....

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He's in breach already 2003-04-15
Anonymous (2 replies)
"...residents of the Great Lakes State can no longer knowingly "assemble, develop..."

He developed it there, he's in breach already. Having it moved offshore and using questionaires is irrelevant....

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He's in breach already 2003-04-15
Spence
He is only in breach if he continues to develope said project in MI. The law is not retroactive....

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He's in breach already 2003-04-16
Anonymous
All these laws are vod and null, because of the First Amendment.

Next year is elections, Bush & gang will go down the loo and democrats shall restore the Founding Father's will....

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the land of the free 2003-04-15
CarlosGaona (1 replies)
This and other articles related make me think whom really need freedom in first place... iraqis or american people.

follow the path, and americans 'll soon found that is illegall to say or comments certain words or topics... a very orwellian vision, but nevertheless a real one....

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the land of the free 2003-04-16
:o)
its simple... its time to look at which govenrment people are voting for these kinds of laws...

and never, EVER vote for them for ANY office ever again...

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Honeyd 2003-04-16
miller26(at)muohio.edu
I certainly hope that this stupidity doesn't spread into Ohio. I'm doing an independant research project at my school using honeypots, specifically, honeyd. It sure would suck to go to jail for doing a school project.

I wonder if my professor would come with me, since he was the one who first int...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-16
trevor
what is really crazy is that if you said "Super-DMCA" to any one of the legions of lawyers who write state-legislation, they would stare blankly at their loafers and say "uhhh...do I get fries with that?". LOL

I imagine that if Niels himself had not brought it up, NO ONE MAY HAVE KNOWN THE WISER ...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-16
Anonymous
Thought you guys where "unionised" via the EFF !

Land of the free, to quote a famous UK TV personality "My Arse" ! ...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-16
Scott
No more NAT?

Sounds like a great excuse to catch up with the rest of the world in deploying IPv6. Sure, there will be headaches, particularly in security, and vendors will have to get moving on refining their IPv6 technology, but we are already behind Europe and Asia in IPv6 rollout.

Or

Move...

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'Super-DMCA' fears suppress security research 2003-04-16
Anonymous
This is _really_ stupid.

Look, Provos has 0 concern about DMCA problems. He wants to have something to bitch and moan about. Just like dugsong did when he put up the "Censored by the Digital Millenium Censorship Act" bullshit on his webpage (monkey.org/~dugsong).

It's just another lame attem...

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