RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures

RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures
Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2003-04-30

To the Recording Industry Association of America, sending threatening messages to online music swappers is a potentially effective way to educate the public that trading copyrighted material is wrong. But to security geeks in the file trading community, the technique is just another volley in the electronic war with peer-to-peer opponents... and a rather trivial one at that.

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And the end of the story ? 2003-05-02
Anonymous (1 replies)

I'd guess that all the P2P traffic will end up being encrypted and anonymized, so that nobody can trace back anybody else's data and source-ip.

It's funny/tragic how those people @ RIAA et.al have learned nothing from the Cold War and the Arms Race that could be applied to their business model.

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And the end of the story ? 2003-05-06
User24 (3 replies)

how would they make it anonymous?

you need to be traceable in order to connect; that's how TCP/IP works, yes, you can encrypt the traffic, but 'they' will still be able to detect that x amount of traffic passed to/from your IP.

What I'm waiting for is a system where you connect, and then a cer...

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And the end of the story ? 2003-05-08
Anonymous

there is a system called freenet that does something like that

http://sourceforge.net/projects/freenet/...

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And the end of the story ? 2003-05-09
Veggie Meat

Just to add a note about encryption: a key would have to be built-in to the client software, therefore making it impossible to send an encrypted message without the software being pirated first, so therefore the RIAA would be breaking copyright laws by embedding a key into client software available ...

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And the end of the story ? 2003-05-09
Anonymous

Such a system exists - Freenet. Check it out at www.freenetproject.org - requests for data are relayed through one or more peers so it is almost impossible to tell who the originator was and the filespace (you decide how much to allocate) is encrypted. It is intended to encrypt the traffic as well -...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-02
Anonymous (1 replies)

There is only one way for the RIAA to abate file swapping... that is to pressure the recording industry to lower the cost of their retail music to reasonable and acceptable levels. I know there are costs and artists considerations to factor in to the final total but there is still enormous overhead ...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-05
Anonymous (1 replies)

We PAY for the priviledge of using the media. The industry is just upset that it can be SEEN and not controlled. What I do with the media after I pay for it and leave the store is and SHOULD be MY business, as long as I'm not trying make a profit off of work that I did not accomplish.

No you d...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-06
Anonymous

The key word in your statement is STEAL if it is knowingly being shared then how is that stealing????...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-02
Anonymous (1 replies)

This is rediculous.

What's next? Is the RIAA going to start spamming too? I can see it now...

"We KNOW you have MP3s on your harddrive... click here or you'll go to jail!!!"

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-07
Anonymous

Personally, I think there is no possible way for the RIAA to enforce anti-piracy on the scale they want. Our nations jail / prison systems can't handle the volume of people that would be locked up for copyright infringement, nor can the court system handle the millions of cases that would ensue if t...

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How things should work... 2003-05-07
Anonymous

People should be able to buy compilation CD's - from different CD's or even artists. That way we are not forced to pay GOOD money for "remixes" that we simply don't want. Then they would have to stop putting 2,3 good songs on a 10track cd....

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-07
Anonymous (2 replies)

I agree, if the music was more fairly priced, and if there was some value-add to buying the CD, P2P would decrease.

I remember when CD's were first coming out and were going to lower the production costs of the big music companies by over 1000%. They said these savings would be passed on to the ...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-07
Anonymous

Exactly.

The CD costs a lot less to produce than a tape, and it's sold twice the price. Some could argue that in 15 years, there as been inflation, but I don't think the cumulative inflation could have doubled the price of the old audio tape.

You can see the same thing with DVDs. They are so...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-08
Anonymous

I also believe that the only efficient way the music companies can reduce piracy is the lower the prices. When it comes to electronic ways(bans,messages etc) the guys opposed to them are both smarter and in greater numbers.

When it comes to law enforcement,well let's dont forget that napster users ...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-07
Anonymous

You know we wouldn't have this problem if it didn't cost $25 for a CD with 11 songs on it. I pay $40 a month for a cable modem. That is were the "music industry" needs to focus. There isn't a new ablum out there that is worth $25. If they brought their prices down they wouldn't have such a probl...

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RIAA messaging gambit faces countermeasures 2003-05-07
Anonymous

Regardless of the legalities involved --- and there are many, I suggest the RIAA look at how the music industry has changed over time. How many CD's today have 3-4 hit songs and you can actually agree that the entire CD is good. How many bands are 1-hit wonders?

Sorry but I remember a day when band...

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