Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred

Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred
Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2003-05-15

The average American moviegoer taking in the Matrix Reloaded this weekend will likely be wowed by the elaborate action sequences and dazzling special effects. But hackers who've seen the blockbuster are crediting it with a more subtle cinematic milestone: it's the first major motion picture to accurately portray a hack.

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
north_ (1 replies)

It should be also noted that a possible

reference to the birthplace of UNIX (room

1127 at Bell Labs) is in the Warning

statement:

Warning: Disabling nodes 21-48 will disconnect sector 11 (27 nodes)

The Matrix Reloaded team did their work, eh?

north_

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LOL IPv4 2003-05-20
Nick (1 replies)

10.x.x.x , IPv4, real nice , looks like they found a way to save the IPv4 range. Then again its a private address, wonder if it was issued DHCP ? :)...

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LOL IPv4 2003-05-27
Anonymous

He he he he... They coulde some Win boxes for 3rd part of Matrix (with IP range 192.168.X.X) :-) ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Jeremy (10 replies)

It's nice to see an attempt to portray real life hacks. Unfortunately, the fact that the movie takes place in 2800 A.D raises the following question : will people in the future be so "retarded" that they will use programs written in 2000 ? The 8 centuries discrepancy is too wide.

It reminds me of t...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
ln_x

hmm...using Nmap in 2800 - Nmap is really quality stuff;))

buggy ssh machines - we see, that will be some IT problems in the future...how meny times was life on the Earth?...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Anonymous

well, yeah, it takes place in 2800, but in the matrix it's still right around 2000-2003 or so. you gotta use what works, buddy. plus, how would they get their software into the matrix?...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
paulc (at) student.ecu.edu (dot) au [email concealed]

If the matrix has been reloaded 6 times, that would sugest that the tech also has to be rebuilt, not to mention the whole fight for survival thing....

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Still no IPv6 2003-05-19
Gwozdziu (1 replies)

... according to screens on www.insecure.org ;-)...

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Still no IPv6 2003-05-20
Anonymous

The year was 2002, ipv6 is still not very popular...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Silver Web Surfer

Tis obvious that you did not understand the first Matrix movie which forms the basis for the second. Tis noted in there that, When the Morpheus first introduces Neo to the Concept of the Matrix, that the timeline is established ie, late 20th century. I do believe that also Suspension of Disbelief is...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Wolf

I don't see your argument to be proper.

She actually uses the exploit INSIDE the Matrix where it always is the time period

arround year 2000 and there is probably ordinary humans manging that server so the version is quit fit for the time. I think.

Not sure thougt.

Corect me if I'm wrong. :)

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Anonymous (1 replies)

Jeez, watch the first movie again... the actual year according to the movie script is 2199. Additionally, as others have mentioned, the matrix duplicates our current time frame......

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Yakonina

Morphus actually says: "...we're not sure but we think it's the year 2199..." or words to that effect. They don't know the Matrix has been reloaded 6 times. ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Sib (1 replies)

Hmm I don't think it's a mistake they use exploits wirtten back in 2000 because the matrix reflects the world around the year 2000 and not the world like it is 2800. So if the world is like it was 2000 it's computer security is too....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-20
Arrob

I agree... threre's no mistake....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-26
ffenyx

When they get in to the matrix all the things they use are form around the year 1999. so the fact that trinity is using Nmap is absolutly exact for what i consern....

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Re: Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2009-02-10
Ryan

Keep in mind that the Matrix is a virtual reconstruction of the world "as it was at the end of the 20th century" (Morpheus). This scene takes place in the matrix, which puts the date at approximately 1999-2002 - a pretty accurate timeframe for this type of hack....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Quux <unicorn (at) blackhats (dot) org [email concealed]>

You mentioned:

But then, the film does take place hundreds of years in the future. Is Zelewski surprised to see unpatched SSH servers running in the year AD 2800? "It's not that uncommon for people to run the old distribution," he says. "I know we had a bunch of boxes that were unpatched for two ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Quux <unicorn AT blackhats DOT org>

Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-16
Anonymous (2 replies)

2800 might be the year in the real world, which based on the movie is argueably not real. But, it's not the year in The Matrix where the hack took place. The Matrix strives to duplicate our current day.

Dagan

mailto:dagangh (at) hotmail.com. (dot) . [email concealed]

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-17
Anonymous (1 replies)

It is actually 2199, not 2800....

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-20
mecmeister (1 replies)

Actually, the year is not 2199. At this stage I would not hazard a guess as to what year it actually is. The Architect mentions 5 previous versions of the matrix, assuming 100 years per matrix, one could put it in the year 2700 or 2800.

I think we will be seeing Neo waking up in yet another reality...

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-21
Fenris (1 replies)

I totallt agree here...more thinking infinite sub-programs. I think that neo having powers OUTSIDE the matrix almost proves this. He is simply able to affect things outside his scope...

In computer terms, theyre local variables, hes a global variable, or maybe even a system variable....

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-27
Anonymous

one more possibility - he didn't quit matrix fully after getting into the monitors room. and then he actual used his duble in the matrix while he was in the rl. why that might be closer to the truth? couse ive seen some movie cuts from ETM game and heard something like "his mind is captured between...

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-18
Anonymous (1 replies)

Im totally agree. Nice conclusion....

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Year 2800 Inaccurate 2003-05-25
GI-Mike

To end the what year question, does the pilot "operator" of the nebuchadnezzar Dosser's brother have grey hairs in the sequel, I am going to see it tomorrow, he will tell you how many years have elapsed since Agent Smith Edited the Matrix with his replication Module. 2800 2119

TIME IS IRRELEVANT...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Anonymous (4 replies)

So will Fyodor now get harrassed my the MPAA lawyers for soliciting and recieving DivX copies of the Matrix reloaded ?

Will the slight modifications

"to make it fit on the screen better" mean that Fyodor could sue the makers of the Matrix Reloaded for "reverse engineering" for financial gain u...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Augustine

You said:

Will the slight modifications

"to make it fit on the screen better" mean that Fyodor could sue the makers of the Matrix Reloaded for "reverse engineering" for financial gain under the DMCA ?

...Looks like someone's been reading their 2600....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Andii

hardly, since its GPL. :)...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Wolf

Isn't Nmap open-source?

It doesn't have to be reverse-engineered,

just simply rewritten.

/Wolf...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Anonymous

he can't sue the makers of the film for modifying his program because the progrma is opensource. Probly the reson they used it. They didn't have to pay a programmer to make them an elaberate animated squence they just used a real hack. (sshnuke exception) ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Jumpstart

If I remember correctly they were in the Matrix when this hack was done.. So the year probably is around 2003? not 2800.......

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Anonymous (1 replies)

As quoted in the article: "But then, the film does take place hundreds of years in the future. Is Zelewski surprised to see unpatched SSH servers running in the year AD 2800?"

Haven't seen the movie but if the hacking took place while within the "Matrix" as opposed to the characteres relative rea...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Anonymous

I think it is closer to current day. When Neo is in the room with all the screens, one of them show president W. or someone that looks very similar.

Also, I think Nmap was run by the other girl just before she got unplugged, Trinity picked up where she left off.

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-16
Robert Lyttle

Agreed. It was an excellent movie with a deep portrayal of the hacker underground…Not only technically, but philosophically as well.

Note the hint by Morpheus when responding to a crewmember’s objection to “disobey a direct order”.

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
GOBBLES (4 replies)

We at GOBBLES Security like the idea of "hacking" materials being used in the media -- infact we would like to disclose some deadly vulnerabilities, during cameo appearances on our favorite television shows, or upcoming movies....

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Year Problems 2003-05-17
DudeHead

If I remember correctly the year 2800 (or around then) is completely inaccurate. I remember Morpheus saying.."you believe it to be the year 1999, but it is actually closer to the year 2199" or something to that effect...random tangent...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Slum

Point well taken and agreed with. Maybe not a wise decision on the writer's part. My webserver is already over-loaded with a barrage of IIS-Unicode vulnerability scans. All I need is a nice little Nmap Syn Stealth scan to put the icing on the script kiddie cake....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-18
y00h00

It would have been funny if it showed the bild number as 5004.94 or something....

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2800 IS Accurate 2003-05-19
Anonymous (2 replies)

The "real world" where the machines are running The Matrix from are in the year 2800A.D. approx. , thus the hack is being done on machines that are real, in the real world. Not on machines that are faked in The Matrix....

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2800 IS Accurate 2003-05-20
Anonymous

the nmap program is being run against servers in the matrix.the sshnuke is destined to exploit a ssh server IN the matrix, programmed by people who live IN the matrix, not by the machines which actually run the matrix.So...everything ok!!!...

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2800 IS Accurate 2003-05-20
George Bailey

Actually, they had not reached the 'source' as yet, thus the machines they were hacking were in the Matrix, not the ones running the

Matrix. ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
chewy (1 replies)

the real world may be close to 2199, but the matrix is still set in the present day, 1999 when the first film was released...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-21
Anonymous

That means Fydor is part of the matrix. WAKE UP FYDOR WAKE UP! Maybe he's a double agent and nmap is a tracking device to keep us all in line, lest we discover the matrix.

j/k

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
JeiAr

I haven't seen it yet, but this definately makes me wanna check it out even more. Glad the weekend is here :)...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Anonymous

-snip- "to make it fit on the screen better" mean that Fyodor could sue the makers of the Matrix Reloaded for "reverse engineering" for financial gain under the DMCA ? -snip-

Im guessing thats the great thing about Open source/freeware. :D

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Carl J

"But then, the film does take place in the future. Is Zalewski surprised to see unpatched SSH servers running in the year AD 2199?"

Where she did the hacking, was 6 months after the first movie took place, which, I do believe was 1999? Not 2199...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
Rayers

What about 10.x.x.x (RFC 1918) ? In this case, the hackers crack own network ? ...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-17
T85aU$tria

I thought it was an awesome movie eventhough i liked the first one better. Yes it really portraits our philosophy and the purpose of what we do. I was very very mad about movies like password swordfish or "hackers" in which the scene wasn't only shown as a bunch of fashion addicted, microsoft cyberp...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-18
comamc <trafalger (at) hotmail (dot) com [email concealed]>

I think that it is great that there is acctually an accurate portayal of hacking in a movie finally. Instead of this fake stuff that is normally seen....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-18
Anonymous

Did they have to glorify RL scr1pt k1dd1ez?

Cracking is KeWl in Hollywood now, whoppy fkndo. The mafia too. Man, I'd really like to be italian, in the mafia *and* a cracker.

Pathetic. These same people probably worship Teflon Dick, John Gotti. He's dead now.

America enjoys worships wrong ic...

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If you have physical access to the network... 2003-05-18
Anonymous

why would you need to hack it?

I would asume that the work stations in that place would have the access already....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
Anonymous (2 replies)

I was just curious if anyone has tried anything with 10.2.2.2 I was trying some stuff, just to resolve the address, but unfortunately the connection I'm currently on is quite insufficient. My pings timed out and I was unable to resolve a host name with tracert.. just ran the basics....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
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10.x.x.x is one if the blocks reserved by the IANA for special purposes....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-21
Anonymous

It's actually reserved for LANs...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-22
Anonymous (1 replies)

10.*.*.* is in the private IP range, as in.. on LAN :)...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-23
Anonymous (1 replies)

> 10.*.*.* is in the private IP range, as in.. on LAN :)

10.0.0.0 is reserved for private networks, but it doesn'T mean it *HAS* to be a LAN.

There's nothing preventing me from assigning 10.0.0.0 addresses to my private WAN links....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-24
OnInternetB4UWuzBorn

Good point, but if you have access to different WAN points and are able to access them without routing interfaces you have created a virtual LAN. All private IP ranges are specifically LAN addresses. If you create a WAN managed through tunnelling or routing, you still have a LAN, architecturally s...

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Matrix wasn't first... 2003-05-19
Gwozdziu

Hacking into some un*x system in

"Antitrust - Conspiration.com"

( http://us.imdb.com/Title?0218817 )

was very nice, too. Especially, undeleting files by editing inodes.

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MST3K Said it best... 2003-05-19
Anonymous (1 replies)

something to the tune of "You may wonder how we eat and sleep, and other science facts. But you know it's just a TV Show, you really should just relax.."

I think you all are forgetting something fundamentally important here.

It's a movie.

Fydor got props for having a superior tool. It's a ...

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MST3K Said it best... 2003-05-23
Fish Fajita

No brainer. With all the hacker cred running around, it must take place in the year 2600....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-19
riaa.org

Well, We think that security focus is too lame to put such news !!!...

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too bad they had to break the law ... 2003-05-19
Anonymous (1 replies)

in order for insecure.org to post those screenshots, someone had to break the law. Now insecure.org is an accomplice after-the-fact in posting them on the site. He even goes so far as to admit he has divx copies of the movie! Hope the DMCA/RIAA/MPAA people don't come down on him too hard (they could...

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too bad they had to break the law ... 2003-05-22
Anonymous

I agree with your thought, but I think that the implications for WB coming down on Fyodor would be worse than the piracy hear commited.

Let´s not forget that the a huge part of the Matrix´s audience is composed by geeks and security techies. Now, can you imagine a boycott that could arise just fo...

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2003, exploit IN matrix 2003-05-21
mv

Hi,

The exploit was taking place IN the matrix, which I believe is meant to be set in modern times, not the far future.

mv...

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-22
psycl0pz

The reason Neo has powers outside the matrix is because there is a matrix within the matrix. It's part of the cliffhanger that gets you thinking....

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Yes, but would a real hacker ... 2003-05-22
Brandon

... use the word "'sploit"? It sounds like something a script kiddie would say. Or a marketroid....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-23
Anonymous

I am surprised at the ideas so many posting don't grasp.

The interface we see is a representation of what humans expect to see around the year 1999. That means although she sees nmap, the code behind it could be entirely different. Does nobody create different front ends for programs anymore?

The ...

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Not 2800 AD 2003-05-24
j0hn

Although the "real world" is 2800 AD, the Matrix is still operating in January of 2000. Before the bug was patched. Therefore, it still works. Think, if it was 2800, there wouldn't be cars, etc....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-25
Anonymous

Aah, a truely ingenious intellect you have. Fianally, someone sees as I. All and all the whole concept and meaning behind the storyline causes interlooping thoughts and wonderment. Thanks for of the added input....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2003-05-27
infernus

I was surprised when she used nmap but I was disappointed when she used a premade exploit. Still it was the best 'hack' I have ever seen in a movie. Nicely done....

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Matrix Sequel Has Hacker Cred 2005-07-02
SuperDuh

I Think the best movie hack was in 1983's movie Wargames. Hey...It could happen....

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