Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2004-08-26
A Massachusetts businessman allegedly paid members of the computer underground to launch organized, crippling distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks against three of his competitors, in what federal officials are calling the first criminal case to arise from a DDoS-for-hire scheme.
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-27
Anonymous (4 replies)
Anonymous (4 replies)
FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-28
child of bodom (1 replies)
child of bodom (1 replies)
I knew a couple of people there.Its rather unfortunate that the big money has lured these kids into cyber crimes....
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
Unfortunate that money has lured these kids into cyber crime ... as if they weren't doing it BEFORE the money?
Do you think Paul Ashley went to any of these kids and taught them how to DoS over night? No, these kids were DoSing way before that and had a reputation for it.
Money didn't lure the...
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Do you think Paul Ashley went to any of these kids and taught them how to DoS over night? No, these kids were DoSing way before that and had a reputation for it.
Money didn't lure the...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-28
h4x0r3d (1 replies)
h4x0r3d (1 replies)
i think if you use a computer, you should know how it works, and, how to correctly use it, if not, you are ASKING to have the vulnerabilities of your computer 'tested'. i think if you have a car, and don't know how to fix, you shouldn't own it. people in our society are too ignorant, and the power i...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-03
Anonymous
I agree with h4x0r3d that the government should not regulate crime. We can take care of it ourselves. But it is difficult for most individuals to determine the origin of these attacks. Once one knows the origin of attack, one can take care of one's own problems.
But our government regulates ...
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Anonymous
I agree with h4x0r3d that the government should not regulate crime. We can take care of it ourselves. But it is difficult for most individuals to determine the origin of these attacks. Once one knows the origin of attack, one can take care of one's own problems.
But our government regulates ...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-31
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>That said, if most people kept their computers patched, firewalled and virus checked - this could of been avoided<<
And in what dream world are you living in? Keeping the system patched and firewalled and equipped with all sorts of security software does not make it secure at all. If a cracker ...
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And in what dream world are you living in? Keeping the system patched and firewalled and equipped with all sorts of security software does not make it secure at all. If a cracker ...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-27
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-28
Anonymous (3 replies)
Anonymous (3 replies)
yes I'm well aware of Richard 'Krashed' Roby's DDoS attacks to many others in the past on IRC. As do many on IRC. He is well known on there for his use of intimidation to get what he wants. He's just a kid but a kid that needs to be treated as an adult. Something really needs to be done about him. I...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
These attacks cost tons of money. I, too, have seen first hand what it's like to have a kid enter an IRC channel, make a demand and then attack when he doesn't get his way. As far as I'm concerned, make them an example. Make them accountable for their actions, serve the required prison sentance a...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-28
sKyZ (2 replies)
sKyZ (2 replies)
Get over it, there will always be new software released. Therefore there will always be more holes and insecure code to be taken advantage of and exploited for botnets. The way to stop it is just to get people to learn about their computers and learn how they work, what should run, what shouldn't, a...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-28
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Just because 12-20 year olds can own 3,000 computers in a weekend doesn't make them "Security Experts" it just proves that they have the resources available to re-distribute given software with plenty of documentation.. the authors of all these bots give these kids all the resources they need to for...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-31
Anonymous
Anonymous
heh, all because a DDoS was made doesnt made them know more or less than everyone else, the "securtity experts" would be the ones that didnt just get there botnets from lets say, a trojan that scans and infects but the old fashioned way , if i do recall, there was issues with other shell providers b...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-29
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
in reply to skyz, the makers of agobot rxbot and all that crap did not make those exploits.
they just wrote an ircparser and scanner.
And just because you can type !scan in an IRC channel and get thousands of computers automatically infected, doesnt mean you're 'elite' or 'leet' or whatever th...
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they just wrote an ircparser and scanner.
And just because you can type !scan in an IRC channel and get thousands of computers automatically infected, doesnt mean you're 'elite' or 'leet' or whatever th...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-29
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
I agree 100% with you. Anyone can download software and use it. Doesn't make you a hacker. Real hackers are the one's who find these holes and fix them, not exploit them. As for the wannabes I could care less about the size of your botnet or the software you own, because you don't know shit about th...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-31
Anonymous
Anonymous
In addition to this comment:
Annoying bragging script kiddies comes to mind that have no idea what Assembler is or any other programming language (a printf 'Helo World'; does not count as programming!!!), nor do they know what the task of a TCP/IP stack is, nor are able to spell their own names (...
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Annoying bragging script kiddies comes to mind that have no idea what Assembler is or any other programming language (a printf 'Helo World'; does not count as programming!!!), nor do they know what the task of a TCP/IP stack is, nor are able to spell their own names (...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-29
Anonymous (4 replies)
Anonymous (4 replies)
I, foone, am outraged. A lot of the so called "facts" in this article are incorrect. Infact, a lot of the article is pure bull. Just because those are the charges does not mean that is what actually happened, and before you people go off slandering these people, you should first attempt to find out ...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-29
Anonymous
Anonymous
first off i'd like to comment on your part about pirated windows. i for one run a free operating system, Freebsd and have for many years, i stay away from windows purely because of all this shit. and secondly, i also know everyone referenced in this article, "Emp" and "Krashed" have both launched ve...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
DDRX
DDRX
Well Put, I work for a computer company and find that it is rare that a PC ever comes in that doesnt have some form of Pirated Movies and MP3's, Illegal Pornography, Or Hacked and Cracked O/S's on them ~ so trust me none of you are innocent - and just because you weren't the one who may have downloa...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
Good job FBI !!
Cyber crime is like an ugly wart on the face of technology for which the remedy is still unknown. Anonymity and accessibility are two incubating factors for this kind of ugliness and now that it has got a flavor of "dollars" I fear it wont take much time for it to grow from " a b...
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Cyber crime is like an ugly wart on the face of technology for which the remedy is still unknown. Anonymity and accessibility are two incubating factors for this kind of ugliness and now that it has got a flavor of "dollars" I fear it wont take much time for it to grow from " a b...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-30
Kelly Hallissey
Kelly Hallissey
Well, I guess my attitude in reading this is a little different than most peoples. I'm sure if any of you knew these people as more than just a screen name or handle you would too.
Based on knowing some of these individuals for up to 9 years, having watched them grow up online, the births of the...
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Based on knowing some of these individuals for up to 9 years, having watched them grow up online, the births of the...
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The Chickens have come home to roost. Was FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-31
Joe Jared (joejared (at) oretek (dot) com [email concealed]) (1 replies)
Joe Jared (joejared (at) oretek (dot) com [email concealed]) (1 replies)
It is an especially rewarding to see the criminals get what they deserve, and to know that if nothing else, my sites. The people who killed http://relays.osirusoft.com committed a crime that cost me personally well over $10,000, as well as potential future business that would have been available h...
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The Chickens have come home to roost. Was FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-09
Anonymous
Anonymous
In order to avoid future attacks of this magnitud, you should think about a better network defense, and stealth configuration of your network traffic. Have a corporation network is not about connect servers, routers, switches, and have a website. No! you should have an intrusion detection hardware i...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-08-31
Skatan (3 replies)
Skatan (3 replies)
You people bitch too much. How do you think these kids get 10k botnets...its cuz your computers arent patched up.
No publically available IRC Bot uses any exploits that arent already patched. If internet users as a whole were more security savy then bots like Phatbot, Agobot, Urxbot, RBot and the...
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No publically available IRC Bot uses any exploits that arent already patched. If internet users as a whole were more security savy then bots like Phatbot, Agobot, Urxbot, RBot and the...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
What kind of quizes are required for the script kiddies? Would those quizes be harder or easier then the general netizen admitance quiz?
I would imagine that hostility to the end user is akin to yelling at bullets because they didn't know enough to look where they were aimed... :)
People see...
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I would imagine that hostility to the end user is akin to yelling at bullets because they didn't know enough to look where they were aimed... :)
People see...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
scadbut
scadbut
You don't need to know how to build a car to drive it, you do not have to be a master carpenter to live in a house, you do not have to know how to fly a plane to fly in one, ..... you get my point. With all the new programs and gadgets that "make life easier" or are supposidly an aabsolute necessit...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
Killing someone is a crime, but people still kill. In many parts of the world you need a permit to carry a gun, and you only get that permit after training sessions and psico evaluation, but still there are people that carry guns without a permit (and commit crimes).
The only reasons that you don...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
Anonymous (2 replies)
Anonymous (2 replies)
Computer attacks are not unusual this days where even a 6 year old kid with a pc can learn hacking within weeks. The issue here is that modern computer and networking systems are too vulnerable for attacks. Even if we download countless patch from the big ol' microsoft and update our virus definitio...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
I would like to make a few passing comments.
What ever happened to having some morals? Why should a person need to know how to patch their system? It's only because there are COWARDS that linger on the net attacking innocent people who have done nothing to deserve being hacked into.
This is su...
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What ever happened to having some morals? Why should a person need to know how to patch their system? It's only because there are COWARDS that linger on the net attacking innocent people who have done nothing to deserve being hacked into.
This is su...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-09
Anonymous
Anonymous
I have an answer for your dubts. One is that corporate networks should configure their network access points to avoid intrusions from unauthorized sources. First create access lists in combination with Wildcard masking, intrusion detection in each network point, and enforce firewall policies elimina...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-01
TCJ2
TCJ2
Change the system?
How about change the thinking of the people writing the crap software? (i.e. Microsoft) How about holding big business responsible for their actions....or lack there of.
If Microsoft can release a patch for a vulnerability in less than three days, then they could have coded...
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How about change the thinking of the people writing the crap software? (i.e. Microsoft) How about holding big business responsible for their actions....or lack there of.
If Microsoft can release a patch for a vulnerability in less than three days, then they could have coded...
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2004-09-02
Skatan
Skatan
3 or 4 Years ago i would have thought that being responsible for what someone did with my computer, should they be able to break into it, to be complete bullshit. But maybe its just that kind of mentality that is required.
You dont need to be A+ Certified to know how to turn on Automatic Updates....
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You dont need to be A+ Certified to know how to turn on Automatic Updates....
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FBI busts alleged DDoS Mafia
2007-07-04
Anonymous
Anonymous
For anyone who still is keeping up with this case, Richard Roby did his time and has been released from the Bureau of Prisons. Paul Ashley is eligible for halfway house in Jan 2008.
Interesting to read all this. As a wife (soon to be ex-wife) of one of the people involved in these attacks, I th...
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Interesting to read all this. As a wife (soon to be ex-wife) of one of the people involved in these attacks, I th...
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Cyber-crime is a rampant menace, and hopefully lots of published lawsuits will make people think twice before launching an attack / coding a virus.
IMO, we also need more laws need to be brough in to deal with younger people involved in these crimes - as from w...
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