Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas

Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas
Scott Granneman, 2003-09-10

Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas - apropos 2003-09-11
Anonymous

At the same time I was reading this article, here is what was being said on Lou Dobbs Tonight -

Good news on the job front -- that is, if you're an engineer and you live in Taiwan, where 3Com is hiring. The struggling networking company is cutting 1,000 jobs, mainly by closing its last factory i...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-11
blacklight (1 replies)

A lot of IT jobs (mostly back office, but then most IT jobs are back office) are moving to India, because there is a discontinuity between the costs of running a back office operation in India vs. running it here - and unfortunately for us, the discontinuity favors India. If India further stacks the...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-12
Anonymous (1 replies)

That all depends. What if most of the systems that need to be secured move to India, as well?
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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-12
blacklight (2 replies)

I don't see how for example the set of firewalls that's protecting the local hospital's networks could be moved to India. I could see how these firewalls could be monitored remotely from India. However, if something is physically wrong with these firewalls, someone has to be there to fix them on the...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous (1 replies)

I agree 110% with you. It is simply just supply and demand. There are still plenty IT jobs in the US. There is simply not enough specialists to fill all of them. So of course the rate of pay is going to increase a little for IT here in the US. I just think it is bad timing with the terrorist movemen...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-18
Anonymous

Of course, the cynic would say that companies will advertise these positions at low wages, then use the lack of applications as justification for bringing in more H1B visa workers.
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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous (1 replies)

I see what you're getting at. So you feel the ultimate result will be a lot of IT jobs will move overseas, but a small number of technicians will still be hired in the U.S. to "put out fires"?
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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-16
blacklight (1 replies)

Honestly, I don't have a crystal ball.

On one hand, I can see many US firms which do heavy heavy business internationally moving a large part of their IT back office ops to India while keeping elite, quick reaction teams available at key locations here. I can also see the same US firms keeping a...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-18
Donald R. Guillot dguillot@hotmail.com

This is true. It will hurt in the short run, but we as americans have proven to be resiliant. I think we need to get an attitude of what can we do now to provide solutions to meet customers needs. As long as we continue down that path we will always keep a dominance in certian key industries.

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-12
Anonymous (1 replies)

Hi.... These big IT companies have plans to move to other countries in the world besides Asia?????...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-12
blacklight (3 replies)

Russia might be a good candidate, except that there are extremely powerful crime organizations there. And Russia has some of the best professional crackers on the planet. I feel almost sorry for any fool who would send financial data over there for storage management - "almost because I have no symp...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-13
Wild Khan (2 replies)

The question of 'extremely powerful crime organization' in russia is overestimated, there crime are organizations far more powerful and well-organized within the States itself, and its more of a target to organized international terrorist groups these days, remember that little 9/11 incident, and t...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-17
Anonymous

Yes. There are more bigger and more powerful crime orgs. here than in Russia. It's called the U.S. government....

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-19
blacklight

I'd say it would be a lot easier for a Russian Steven Michnik to social engineer his way to an admin password if his target was in Russia than if his target was in the US - if only because his command of English would have to be lot better than my almost non-existent Russian. And Russian organized c...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous (1 replies)

What about Malaysia?...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-16
blacklight

I expect that Malaysia has a bright future, as Malaysia is a conjoined twin of Singapore. I expect intra-ASEAN and APEC trade as well as trade with India to expand enormously over the coming years. I expect that with its low cost of living, good food and high quality infrastructure, Malaysia will f...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous

Talking about Russia's infamous mafia I have to notice that you live in a world of around 1996-1997. Now these people already found theyr way into power.

So ask yourself if you trust into Russian government and its power structures beacuse of local practice sometimes solve business problems with ...

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Security 2003-09-13
Anonymous

The question is. Are you willing to allow foreigners to have access to sensitive and secret information about American corporations and military installations? ...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-14
Unix System Admin (2 replies)

I found a very good article about this topic here at Fortune.com , this is an excerpt from it. It would be of benefit to go to fortune.com and read the whole article. It was publishedTtuesday August 12 2003 , search for Value Driven, the U.S. is falling asleep on the job

Example: An electrical ...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-16
blacklight

American high schools are peculiar in that the holder of a high school diploma could have gotten the equivalent of two years of college education - or at the other extreme have learned just enough to read his diploma by making out all the Roman characters with his lips. America is a land of opportun...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-20
Last Man Standing

You and Don Guillot are right on when you note that constant innovation is the only way to stay ahead of commodification. But innovation alone is not sufficient - it must be directed at the right target.

In 'The Work of Nations', Robert Reich argued more than a decade ago that no industry would b...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous

I know an India company that is working on a set of security programs for the U.S. They are written code for $20/hour and selling the software back to several organizations in our government.

The same company also ask me to help them find old computer hardware and Microsoft software from U.S. co...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-15
Anonymous

Does anyone else see something wrong with exporting banking and other IT services to overeducated, overworked, and underpaid IT professionals?...

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don't you worry ... they will be back ! 2003-09-18
CloseMinded (1 replies)

Everyday we see our factories moving overseas to increase the local profits, sure now is the turn of the IT industry.
Continuing in this way, sooner or later we will have a new market; creating jobs in poor countries will make those countries lesser poor and will increase the number of local custom...

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I would worry...they won't be back any time soon! 2003-09-22
Anonymous

Really this is the critical problem and these companies are being VERY shortsighted.

American car manufacturers are moving almost all of their IT development to India, but who buys their cars? Do Indian's have the income to purchase American cars? No, certainly not on the salary the manufacture...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-19
Vishal Pipraiya

Hi,
Being an Indian student under training, it's a relevation to what you people think about the current exodus of IT jobs from U.S to other developing countries.
As an insider I would like to point out that, things are changing here too. Rising attrition costs and bloated salaries are a co...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-21
Anonymous

A common ground and agreement? Nahda. If it were the old days, American would havent sent in the troops to reverse the tide.

I don't think anyone from America can justify their wages if it's compared to workers from India/China, high tech or low tech, doesn't matter.

Thing is, forget what the ...

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Can we just invade China and India? 2003-09-21
Anonymous

Can we just invade China and India to stop that bad competition? I know a lot of you'd laugh at this. I am too. But just trying to get you people be a bit open minded - to think the unthinkable.

now, let me tell you why this is not going to work (ie. Invade China/India) 1. we wont win - let's fa...

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Rumblings On IT Jobs Moving Overseas 2003-09-22
Anonymous

My personal opinion is that these companies have every right to set up shop overseas, but there need to be adjustments to the current model - such as a serious overhaul to the H1B program (which has been blatantly abused, especially by tech companies). The other questions that few ask are these :
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