Lost in Translation

Lost in Translation
Tim Mullen, 2003-09-22

We spend money, increase administration, and take away functionality. Is it any wonder that security people are so misunderstood?

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-22
blacklight

Actually, it could get worse: Do your job, make sure that nothing happens and when nothing happens, some clueless suit is going to make you justify your job. This reminds me of what I used to do as a consultant: (1) Don't do your job and you get kicked out; (2) Do your job and get kicked out (becaus...

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Nothing Lost. All Now Explained 2003-09-22
Lost and Found Dept. (1 replies)

It has always been a mystery as to why MS operations and the people who run them always seem to be the ones screwing up. Why it is that the internet is choking with MS spew eminating from MS product around the world.

Well now we know.

The useless, lazy MS operators sit back till Thursday morni...

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Nothing Lost. All Now Explained 2003-09-24
Anonymous (1 replies)

Most of my notifications do not arrive until Wednesday night or Thursday anyway, but that is probably because of my last name.
Me waiting until the next day does not make me useless or lazy. There is alot of work that has to go into determining which patches we will accept, how to test them, and h...

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Nothing Lost. All Now Explained 2003-09-29
Anonymous

I missed something in the 5th person rewrite here.
So _who_ (or _whom__) is testing, checking, and doing accepatablility studies on the patches?

MS?
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How Interesting 2003-09-23
Sigmund Einstein

A Latin anagram for 'Microsoft"

ficto mors 'death maker'...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-24
Yoshira Takashi (7 replies)

Frankly I find this mockery of Japanese disturbing. While it may be dismissed as something cute or clever by the author, it is still offensive. Clearly the author while trying to be cute or clever and going so far as to --- as all racists do --- state his claim that he 'loves' Japanese people and th...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-24
Anonymous

Forgive me for being so blunt, but get a life.

Having a misunderstanding does not make you a racist. It might make you hard of hearing, or a bit slow on comprehension, but racist it's not.

Being a native english speaker, I have trouble with understanding people from other language backgrounds...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-24
Anonymous (1 replies)

I doubt you are really who you say you are. If so, you should read more closely. For one, it does say "stay" and for another, the author clearly points out that he is "not making fun" of anyone. You need to lay off the coffee just like the other guy. Actually I bet you really ARE the other guy. N...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-25
Jesse Jackson (2 replies)

Funny I read "say" as well when the article first came out. Maybe the moderator is the author...quickly modifying original releases seems dangerous. What else gets modified after the fact on securityfocus.com one must wonder....

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-26
So Sumi

"Funny I read "say" as well when the article first came out. Maybe the moderator is the author...quickly modifying original releases seems dangerous. What else gets modified after the fact on securityfocus.com one must wonder."

But.... But.... Isn't nonrepudiation a key element of maintaining dat...

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Lost in Translation -- moderating these comments 2003-09-29
Editor (1 replies)

All comments are moderated by the content editor for SecurityFocus, and definitely not the original author. Comments cannot be altered, they are simply approved or rejected. Only inappropriate content (ie., profanity) is rejected, otherwise all comments appear in this database. If you have specific ...

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Lost in Translation -- moderating these comments 2003-09-29
Check out the corrective package from Microsoft Corp.

Hey Ed.

Not the comments the article. Definitely said "say" and not "stay". Someone corrected it after it being pointed out per the other dudes comments.

Keep up the good work and don't let profanity deter you.

Lots of Love
Swen...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-25
Anonymous

Misunderstanding someone is a mockery? It is racist? No, you a just a dolt. You are going WAY out of your way to make something out of nothing. Find something else to do with your time!!...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-25
Bruce Green

You should have picked a better phony name and reason to post to this site....

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-25
Rogue ET

From my point of view, the author was at the end of the joke, not the young lady. So, why all the hostility?

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-25
blacklight (1 replies)

I am a Vietnamese American and frankly, I never saw in Tim Mullen's account any hint of the mockery or disrespect that you describe. Tim Mullen is a very straightforward person and if he wanted to disrespectful, mocking or caustic, you wouldn't need to read between the lines or guess at his meaning....

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-26
So Sumi

Excerrent Tlansration!...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-29
Keitaro (Keith) Shinohara

I agree with the others, you need to lay off whatever you're on because you apparently do not understand what you are saying.

I'm Japanese (immigrated to the states), and I don't see any racism in this column like the way you see it.

Seems like you're the racist one....

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Lost in Translation by Sophia Coppola 2003-09-27
Anonymous (2 replies)

In the autobiographical film about Bruce Lee - Lee and girlfriend are watching Breakfast at Tiffany's in a theater and an asian landlord is reeming them out...Lee appears to be uncomfortable with that scene as the landlord is portrayed as a crazy kook -

There are things that are a part of any cu...

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Lost in Translation by Sophia Coppola 2003-09-29
Anonymous (1 replies)

Prolly not racist but surely low-class and ignorant. Using someone's accent or inability to speak the Queen's Ingleesh as the butt of joke is tasteless....

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Lost in Translation by Sophia Coppola 2003-09-30
Anonymous

Looks like you are replying to your self. Don't be so liberal with the insults like "ignorant". If you could read, you would see that Mullensky made the joke about HIMSELF. HE is the one who did not understand. But you come here and post about low class and ignorant. What does that make you?...

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Lost in Translation by Sophia Coppola 2003-09-30
Anonymous

Total, incoherent babbling. You make nothing that even slightly resembles a point. I can?t even tell whose side you are on, which is probably good.

P.S. Bruce Lee was an American. He was born in San Francisco. His parents were Chinese (and a bit O? German IIRC). Let me guess, you probably ...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-29
Anonymous (1 replies)

Good article which contrasts several interesting points:

1- The only solution provided by this journalist/CIO is more money, into the exsisting product. No where is there mention of trying something else.

2- There is no mention as to the QA level of MS patches. If they are already doing _t...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-30
grep (1 replies)

I don't think that's the point. The point is that we, as security people, are misunderstood - just like the whole Bruce Green thing was. We are sunken costs to most businesses (unless we're consultants - then we're sunken costs to the clients). They see no revenue from us. We constantly ask for more...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-30
Anonymous

The original poster's point stands... if companies looked at investing resources in alternatives to Microsoft bloatware, they wouldn't have to sink as much capital into $200/hr security consultants.

Plenty of businesses reget transitioning from green screens or DOS to Windows... they now have 3x ...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-30
Anonymous

If you have a car and the manufacturer announces there is a problem with the brakes, and to bring it to the garage straight away for a free repair do you...
a) ignore the problem and continue to drive your kids to school in a car with potentially deadly brakes
b) take it to garage and get it fixed...

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Lost in Translation 2003-09-30
Lost Interest (1 replies)

What a completely useless thread. ...

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Lost in Translation 2003-10-01
Bubble Khan

IT _is_ a cost center for the suits - out of ignorance. I dimly recall a Jannet Reno's saying that her Mac it too complicated for her - she uses a pencil. Sure, a bunch of secretaries doing the job for her, as for countless C$O.

When the revolution will come, these guys will be the first against ...

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