Microsoft and Claria, together at last?

Microsoft and Claria, together at last?
Scott Granneman, 2005-07-13

I don't get mad too easily, but there's one thing guaranteed to really get me steaming, and that's when someone is lying to me. Right now I'm feeling lied to, and while I could be wrong, I don't think I am. Worse, I don't think I'm the only one who's the victim here. I think virtually all of you are having your chains yanked as well.

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
Anonymous

It looks like MS will not be purchasing Claria after all. Now if they will only raise the alert level on those spyware programs everything will be back to normal... Not that normal is good....

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
Anonymous (3 replies)

Scott,

I understand your pain and frustration, but it's obvious that you (and many others) do not fully understand the adware/spyware landscape. There is active and evolving legislation (in California and at the Federal level) aimed at defining, controlling and regulating legitamite adware compa...

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Re: Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-14
Anonymous

Sounds like someone works for Claria........

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Re: Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-16
Anonymous

I am a bit surprised with your rationale. You can not justify what M$ or these anti-spyware companies are doing by pointing to any legislations. Who says all legislations are for public good and no politics involved.

There's anough lobbying done by the biggest companies to twist just about anythi...

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Re: Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-20
Anonymous

What a load of bull. I am speaking as someone who has to deal with friends/relatives that have been infected with Gain's MALWARE (that's what it is, plain and simple).
Maybe they clicked on some EULA with 50 pages of fine print somewhere, but I've not found a single person who believes that they...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
Anonymous (1 replies)

Can you please provide a link/url/proof that MS is not going to buy Claria?...

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Re: Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
Anonymous

Check out this link.

http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3519521...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
Ray

Amen brother. I couldn't agree more and it is very disappointing to see MS even considering buying a company like Claria. I actually thought that they were moving in the right direction. Disgusting!...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-13
THE CAPIALIST PIG

I can understand your frustration Scott. However you have to keep in mind that microsoft is not some girlfriend you can talk into treating you better. We?re talking about a multi billion dollar company. They don?t care about you or any other user. All they care about is their bottom line.
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Shame on Micro$oft 2005-07-14
assurbanipal

Dear Scott,

this is the evidence that Micro$oft can't improve (and doesn't want to do it either).
Not only are they infesting the world with garbage-quality software, now they are involved in dubious activities too. The lure of the money is too great it seems...

Boycott Bill!
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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-14
Anymouse CISSP

Every now and again it's nice to be reminded just how unethical Microsoft is.

Trustworthy? Microsoft? Nope....

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-14
Anonymous

But wait, there's more. See <a href=http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/06/popup-blocker-
what-popup-blocker.html> THIS</a> blog from Mark Russinovich, one of the authors of four editions of Microsoft Windows Internals.

In there he outlines how Microsoft has left backdoors in the OS so that u...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-14
Anonymous

Scott - Although it does not directly address your issue, From now on, you should be recommending Sunbelt's CounterSpy instead of MS Antispyware. They share a common origin, but there is a substantial difference in the way they perform. CounterSpy is not free - costs about $20, but worth it. I remov...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-14
Anonymous

It is just over a month ago that I was recomended to use Microsofts Anti-Syware Beta. I've been impressed with the results. However, this revelation has left a bad taste in the mouth.
The question is: Should I now uninstall it and stick to using Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot? ...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-17
Anonymous

Why in the world did you believe Microsoft would do the right thing? How long have you been around the computer industry? NEVER trust them! That is how I see it. I have one mac to run the few commercial software packages I need and everything else I use is solaris or linux....

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-17
Anonymous

Thanks for the knowledge.
Great article!!!...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-18
Anonymous (1 replies)

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Sleeping with the enemy". MS always operates under the shroud of secrecy, probably so it can back out of embarrassing situations like the Claria acquisition in response to the public outcry.

Either Bill Gates is not as smart as we think he is, or he has become so...

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Re: Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-20
Anonymous

I have been a Microsoft user and administrator for a number of years and honestly, even the thought of a purchase of this sleezy, underhanded company, makes me furious. I can't agree more that MS, making these types of anouncement WILL lose more people to other operating systems or boycott computin...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-20
Anonymous

I think this article has good points. That said I've followed M$ long enough to know that they are not afraid to use there money to gain tactical advantages.

Claria is the preparing for a legal/technical battle. It looks like they may be perfectly legal in there annoying/ installs. My point is t...

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How about Microsoft buy Claria and shut them down? 2005-07-20
Anonymous

So if buying spyware companies is bad, how about buying them and shutting htem down immediately. That way MS pays for their mistakes, and we get fewer (successful) spyware companies software on out machines - or maybe that would just encourage huge numbers of new spyware companies to spring up in th...

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MS is (maybe) smarter than you think...... 2005-07-21
Johan (2 replies)

Did any of you think that (hopefully) MS is buying them out to get rid of them...
This would unfortunately require them to downgrade the ratings to show "friendliness" toward them. otherwise theyre never going to be able to buy them out. whats better of a way to get rid of the enemy than to buy the...

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Re: MS is (maybe) smarter than you think...... 2005-07-25
Anonymous

I would doubt that. If the motive was to shutdown Claria after an acquisition, that essentially presents a $500 million reward for the company that can develop the sleaziest spyware.
That's a tough offer to pass up.

Besides, that wouldn't stop the Claria developers from doing it again. (Microsof...

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Re: MS is (maybe) smarter than you think...... 2005-07-31
Anonymous

Dude you have got to be blind....

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Amen!! Can I ge a hal-la-loo-ya!! You hit the nail on the had sith this one! 2005-07-22
Anonymous

I am an MCSE and have been a Microsoft backer but in recent years I have been pushed more and more toward Linux. And you wonder why?...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2005-07-25
DrkProfit

Microsoft has had never intention regarding the computer industry that to own it, lock stock and barrel. All the back treading BS that MS has done through the years has been to set a monopolizing tone that has Microsoft at the top of the heap. We know from its past history that it has stolen ideas f...

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Boycot Microsoft and switch to Apple 2005-07-31
Anonymous

It is a much better system and you'll never have to worry about any virus or spyware crap. ...

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Microsoft and Claria, together at last? 2007-01-16
Anonymous

I thought you could all use an update.
It is time to give Claria a break.
Claria changed from GATOR to get into the web personalization space. Their GAIN system was incrementally decomissioned through to Oct. 2006. They are no longer in the spyware business. Claria uses a lot of the original backe...

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