Kelly Martin, 2006-04-18
Botnets are a major source of evil on the Internet, from spam, phishing attacks, virus propagation and denial-of-service attacks to the stealing of financial information and other illegal activity. Does disbanding them raise legal and ethical implications?
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"Source" of evil?
2006-04-18
Matthew Murphy (1 replies)
Matthew Murphy (1 replies)
Don't use Microsoft Windows
2006-04-20
Anonymous (3 replies)
Anonymous (3 replies)
Re: Don't use Microsoft Windows
2007-02-27
YL
YL
The reason why windows has been targeted by most viruses is because the majority of the world runs on windows, therefore more hackers will focus their attention only on windows systems. Because more prey will fell for it if it succeeds. If people gradually replace their windows with macs, hackers wi...
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Re: Don't use Microsoft Windows
2008-04-08
Anonymous
Anonymous
We have plenty of Linux botnets also.
Linux is coded much more efficient than Windows, unlimiting the performance.
Personally from my own experience when I send the command for a DOS attack with a Windows Botnet lets say of maybe 500 Computers... It does not come close to what 20 Linux Computers c...
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Linux is coded much more efficient than Windows, unlimiting the performance.
Personally from my own experience when I send the command for a DOS attack with a Windows Botnet lets say of maybe 500 Computers... It does not come close to what 20 Linux Computers c...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-18
Anonymous (4 replies)
Anonymous (4 replies)
There is another interesting legal twist that I'm not sure has been looked at yet: What if the bot code is copywrited uses a rights management system to access, monitor and control the network. Would investigating how the botnet works and what the code is doing violate the DMCA? Especially in the...
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Re: Stop the bots
2006-04-18
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
As absolutely disturbing as your thought is, you do pose one great point in your question. How do you tell the difference between a "trojan" infected bot, and one that someone clicked a pop-up ad without reading it and had an install infect them. But then the other question is can you copyright soft...
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Re: Re: Stop the bots
2006-04-18
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
"Also if the software is being used for illegal means is it still protected by the DMCA?"
That's like asking, if I shoot someone with a gun do I still have the right to carry it? No matter how people try to disguise software as "legit", the software is still illegal. No amount of EULAs, DMCAs...
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That's like asking, if I shoot someone with a gun do I still have the right to carry it? No matter how people try to disguise software as "legit", the software is still illegal. No amount of EULAs, DMCAs...
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Re: Stop the bots
2006-04-18
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
The DMCA certainly can't legitimize or be hidden behind if a botnet is discovered. The software is being used to commit crimes, and the crimes would far outweigh any defense using copyright laws. The DMCA doesn't defend itself, so the author of the botnet software would have to go on the offensive...
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Re: Stop the bots
2006-04-23
Anonymous
Anonymous
First; DMCA is irrelevant here in Europe. Over here we prefer privacy laws over big brother/"lets implement DRM into everything"-nazi tacticts.
Second; No.
Compare: You can probably patent a harmful drug (thereby gaining legal protection for it from compeditors) but they are STILL harmful drug...
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Second; No.
Compare: You can probably patent a harmful drug (thereby gaining legal protection for it from compeditors) but they are STILL harmful drug...
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We owe a debt of gratitude to Microsoft !
2006-04-19
Dom De Vitto (dom@devitto.com) (1 replies)
Dom De Vitto (dom@devitto.com) (1 replies)
"I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared from the common culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with the release of MS-DOS."
- Larry DeLuca henrik@scws10.harvard.edu, 3/95. ...
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- Larry DeLuca henrik@scws10.harvard.edu, 3/95. ...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
Arko Dhar
Arko Dhar
The issue covered with bots is not just a matter of spamming , phishing but if we focus on the future a bit more deeply we would see that there has to resources to stop the bots from invading wht u call the off computer networked world. On saying this i mean in the future most of the communication d...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
kiddecks
kiddecks
How bout, stop evil botmasters- the problem lies with the intent, i had a net of 5000 that I just ran patches on and made sure they were up to date so they dind't get anyones viruses, sure i had my fun too- but all articles like this are doing is giving the "evil botnetters" a stiffy. ...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen
Actually ISPs blocking outbound port 25 is a bad thing. It violates the dumb network/smart edges design philosophy and oddly enough probably ends up contributing MORE to spam than stopping it.
Every ISP I've seen that does this requires users to use Outlook or Outlook Express's "POP Auth before ...
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Every ISP I've seen that does this requires users to use Outlook or Outlook Express's "POP Auth before ...
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Towards the next generation of programs
2006-04-20
Trend
Trend
Hi,
This comparison of botnets and SkyNet reminded me of an old question that is not yet, I think, around:
how do you make the difference between a program that is "sincerely" faulty and one that is malicious as long as they depend on the same "bug" (which can be seen as a "functionality" in t...
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This comparison of botnets and SkyNet reminded me of an old question that is not yet, I think, around:
how do you make the difference between a program that is "sincerely" faulty and one that is malicious as long as they depend on the same "bug" (which can be seen as a "functionality" in t...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
Anonymous
Anonymous
would you agree that we should take vigilate justice out on street gangs because the law enforcement offices are too swamped and underfunded to deal with the problems? i mean, gangs have turf wars over terretory they dont own, and they are probably dealing drugs, or robing people or just throwing d...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
Anonymous
Anonymous
If you break the long lost world of IRC then a large infrastructure (glue) that keep bots together will be broken too. When that is done a whole new infra has to be designed and implemented which is much harder today than it was in the sunrise period of the internet. Only P2P systems are sophisticat...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-20
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Eventually we must decide to treat an ignorant user of the internet as any source of infection. Eventually it may become expedient to introduce a licence to be able to get on internet, linked to easily accessible education. And if that doesn't work the sources of infection, i.e. the ignorant casual ...
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Botnets are friendly, users are mean...
2006-04-22
Anonymous
Anonymous
If you think Botnets are the source of evil, you need to be fired and some else hired.
Why? I doubt you could man a distributed botnet of; "spiders","worms","Trojans","bots", "eggdrops",
choose your jargon, but how about the thousands of systems that governments are using,
what about those botnet...
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Why? I doubt you could man a distributed botnet of; "spiders","worms","Trojans","bots", "eggdrops",
choose your jargon, but how about the thousands of systems that governments are using,
what about those botnet...
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Botnets: Not a four-year-old concept
2006-04-24
Anonymous
Anonymous
Botnets have existed for more than ten years. Anyone who knows what an eggdrop is knows what I'm talking about.
This article totally over emphasizes botnets. The real issue at hand is the lack of understanding and security inherent in personal computers and their users today. Remove the holes, an...
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This article totally over emphasizes botnets. The real issue at hand is the lack of understanding and security inherent in personal computers and their users today. Remove the holes, an...
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Stop the bots
2006-04-25
Alexey Vesnin
Alexey Vesnin
Yes, we have Skynet-like network for YEARS - not just a spamnets... It will not perish, even if we'll wipe out all the payment-earning abilities for spammers/phishers and malware writers. No, it will remain as a team sport - "to hit an Elephant".... It will be really and safely DOWN only when end-us...
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