Scott Granneman, 2006-10-27
Scott Granneman takes a look at some big surprises in Microsoft's Vista EULA that limit what security professionals and others can do with the forthcoming operating system.
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Surpises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-27
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Re: Surpises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-28
Paul (2 replies)
Paul (2 replies)
I agree - also in the UK a contract can not have amibiguities. The reference to an internet page for more information may be legal but if the information on that page changes then the whole contract would be found to be invalid....
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2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
Same thing here in Canada, but I wonder to know what a judge will said if someone don't agree to the license and return the software package at the store for a refund. Since the refund policies said that the package have to be unopened and you can't read the license before opening it....
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-27
Peter (9 replies)
Peter (9 replies)
I am not going to specifically defend MS, but I think you would agree that most of these restrictions are meaningless to the average user.
Most people will get Vista with a new PC and never reinstall or move a license. Average users don't even know what virtualization is.
The really sad part is...
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Most people will get Vista with a new PC and never reinstall or move a license. Average users don't even know what virtualization is.
The really sad part is...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-27
Anonymous (4 replies)
Anonymous (4 replies)
You said: "But maybe MS is playing their cards right. Are you really going to set your parents up with a Linux box and provide support for them? Of course not, they already know how to use Windows and that's what they want."
Actually, that's exactly what I did. You're right - they don't care abou...
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2006-10-28
Anonymous
Anonymous
Amen to the last comment, Linux is looking better all the time. (I do run Fedora 5 for a server) I wouldnt be surprised to see this news spread like wildfire...
Microsoft are really screwing them selves they sound more like the Bush adminstration every day, double speak double think.....
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Microsoft are really screwing them selves they sound more like the Bush adminstration every day, double speak double think.....
NO2I...
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2006-10-30
Steve (1 replies)
Steve (1 replies)
Strangely enough, that's the reason more and more people are moving to Linux. I had the same problem with relatives managing to screw their systems with malware, they now have none of those problems on their Linux machines. They can do all the browsing, emailing, and letter writing they want and i h...
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2006-10-30
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
I read an article nearly a year ago where the BBC in the UK set had a number of PC's set up in a public area of an exibition, running Windows. As an experiment they replaced half of them with Linux, configured to look like Windows. When the visitors who used the Linux PC's were asked what operating ...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
You asked "Are you really going to set your parents up with a Linux box and provide support for them?".
Er, yeah, I did, and it's worked out really well. Support is a LOT easier now. Instead of visits to fix (spyware,trojan,virus cleansing) the computer - "It's doing strange things!", I get "How do...
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Er, yeah, I did, and it's worked out really well. Support is a LOT easier now. Instead of visits to fix (spyware,trojan,virus cleansing) the computer - "It's doing strange things!", I get "How do...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
Anonymous
Anonymous
"Are you really going to set your parents up with a Linux box and provide support for them?"
Yes. I already have. My grandmother too. And an Uncle, some friends and some neighbors.
"Of course not, they already know how to use Windows and that's what they want."
See, that's the thing. They ...
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Yes. I already have. My grandmother too. And an Uncle, some friends and some neighbors.
"Of course not, they already know how to use Windows and that's what they want."
See, that's the thing. They ...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
I have switched my whole family to Ubuntu Linux. It is actually much easier to maintain and support than Windows. I am an MCSE and have always been a "Windows guy." I have been supporting Windows for 10 years now. Linux has come a long way and is a very viable alternative to Windows, for everyone. I...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
lonely spoon
lonely spoon
And it's not like young people are any smarter. Most of my friends think Vista is a new interface with a pretty clock and transparecy. They know nothing of what's beyond the UI, and as long as they can download music, play WoW and go to mySpace, they could care less what rights they sign away. Half ...
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Re: Microsoft Vista's EULA -- Average Users DO Care
2006-11-10
Amy
Amy
Don't underestimate non-technical old folks -- maybe they don't care about virtualization or EULAS, but they do care about internet issues such as the right to the privacy and ownership of their own data, which Microsoft, in a EULA subject to their revisions, can overturn any time it likes.
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2007-04-23
Anonymous
Anonymous
Interesting you should mention "Are you really going to set your parents up with a Linux box and provide support for them" I did exactly that with SUSE 10.2, for my 70 year old father who is not computer savy, and within a week he said by by to M$. The only Windows software that is on the Laptop are...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-28
one more anonymous poster
one more anonymous poster
"...along with a final wave goodbye.
There comes a point at which corporate hubris causes a fall,
and we may be seeing the beginning of that collapse."
As it was clearly stated in the article,they try to "re-write" history.
But unfortunately for them,History does NOT repeat itself in the way t...
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There comes a point at which corporate hubris causes a fall,
and we may be seeing the beginning of that collapse."
As it was clearly stated in the article,they try to "re-write" history.
But unfortunately for them,History does NOT repeat itself in the way t...
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Surprises with Microsoft Vista for PC manufacturers
2006-10-28
Anonymous
Anonymous
PC manufacturer Acer has stated that Vista Home Basic lacks features that Acer customers want, and resents being forced by Microsoft to pay more for the OS with the features customers want. This will cut into Acer's profits.
This will affect the Mom & Pop users.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/965...
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This will affect the Mom & Pop users.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/965...
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There is a reason they have no fear..
2006-10-28
Nicholas weaver (2 replies)
Nicholas weaver (2 replies)
There is a very good reason they have no fear:
They have a dual monopoly, both on the OS and on the office file formats. Thus the cost to shift away really is prohibitive/impossible, because of the need to interact with old documents and others.
Additionally, the Justice Department caved with...
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They have a dual monopoly, both on the OS and on the office file formats. Thus the cost to shift away really is prohibitive/impossible, because of the need to interact with old documents and others.
Additionally, the Justice Department caved with...
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Re: Speaking of Justice Dept
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
They're busy rejiggering everything they got to run Microsoft software... windows servers, xp pro, office, sharepoint, the whole shooting match. If they get all their funding, it will end up being a $500 Million dollar contract and entrench Microsoft in the DOJ so deeply it will never be able to be ...
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don't like it? roll ur own
2006-10-28
lsi (2 replies)
lsi (2 replies)
Here's my tip for Symantec - go make your own OS. That's right, Symantec BSD, or whatever. Stop trying to shore up M$'s crap, instead paste your brand onto a well-respected OS, and do the job properly....
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Re: don't like it? roll ur own
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
Actually I would hope that BSD in particular would take off a bit more for that reason. Something like NetBSD is as portable as portable can be. You have the very pleasant BSD liscense also. Just add some decent drivers and its a great starter for an OS. I wonder if anyone has bother to try to ma...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-29
Anonymous (2 replies)
Anonymous (2 replies)
...right. And Olbermann _is_ fair and balanced. Scott, stick to what you think you know - security. Last time I checked, this site isn't called politicalfocus.com. ...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-31
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
"Scott, stick to what you think you know - security. Last time I checked, this site isn't called politicalfocus.com."
Thank you for pointing that out. I was going to comment but decided it was no use. I am with him 100% on most of the article but when I get to the unrelated political jabs I get t...
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Thank you for pointing that out. I was going to comment but decided it was no use. I am with him 100% on most of the article but when I get to the unrelated political jabs I get t...
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Unclear about VMware impact
2006-10-30
Surreal
Surreal
I'm curious how the "1 transfer" law works when you've bought SuperDuper Windows (the most pricey one). Can you install two VMs per license purchased, perhaps you can only move a VM to another VMware-host once? I'm not a lawyer so it's pointless for me to try to grok the license - but I do wonder......
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
Zori
Zori
"You may disclose the results of any benchmark test of those components, provided that you comply with the conditions set forth at http://go.microsoft/fwlink/?LinkID=66406."
People won't comply with this policy. Instead, researches will become anonymous again and will disclosure vuln info in unof...
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People won't comply with this policy. Instead, researches will become anonymous again and will disclosure vuln info in unof...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
Ant-UK (2 replies)
Ant-UK (2 replies)
What a strange one sided arguement. As someone else replied how many of the millions of users is this going to apply to .... a very small number.
Business users should have a corporate licence and there are many options, nearly all of which have a single product key, therefore the security sid...
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Business users should have a corporate licence and there are many options, nearly all of which have a single product key, therefore the security sid...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
I´m one of those people that hava a problem if i can´t run vista on Virtual Machines, im not going to buy the expencive super duper special edition. i usaly get(even if i dont want it) my MS software when i buy computers, i use windows for playing games and i need windows sometimes for some programi...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-03
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Actually, I don't see the authors arguments as being one-sided. Rather, the EULA itself is very restrictive and all the author's doing is highlighting these restrictions. If, as you say, the argument is one sided, why don't you tell us what's to like about the EULA?...
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2006-11-06
ANT-UK
ANT-UK
I didn't say there was anything to like, seeing as this is a legal document I've never read any where there is something to like.
When I said it was one sided what I was refering to was the manner in which the article was written and the point of view taken. This was no less one sided than Paul...
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When I said it was one sided what I was refering to was the manner in which the article was written and the point of view taken. This was no less one sided than Paul...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
Gilles Gravier - Gilles@Gravier.org
Gilles Gravier - Gilles@Gravier.org
One of the reasons that Microsoft prevents you from installing on a virtual host is probably that they can't really figure out if you are making multiple simultaneous installations of the same machine (make one image and run it on multiple VMs)... so that has got to make them very nervous......
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-30
murdamcloud (1 replies)
murdamcloud (1 replies)
There's a great 'debate' at Paul Thurrot's site
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_licensing_repl
y.asp
great piece Scott. Like your students, I guess I'm still undecided.
And to the poster who said 'no virus worries' on the Linux box-can you tell me which flavour of 'nix you have that ...
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http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_licensing_repl
y.asp
great piece Scott. Like your students, I guess I'm still undecided.
And to the poster who said 'no virus worries' on the Linux box-can you tell me which flavour of 'nix you have that ...
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Re: Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-10-31
Anonymous (2 replies)
Anonymous (2 replies)
"And to the poster who said 'no virus worries' on the Linux box-can you tell me which flavour of 'nix you have that has no virus worries?"
I'm not the one who made the comment but the comment is true. Pick any flavor Linux and you should have no "virus" worries. I'm not saying that Linux is free ...
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I'm not the one who made the comment but the comment is true. Pick any flavor Linux and you should have no "virus" worries. I'm not saying that Linux is free ...
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2006-11-01
Anonymous (2 replies)
Anonymous (2 replies)
I think it is because so many Linux users are so sure that they can't be infected by a virus, that the number of linux viruses are are seeing such an upsurge, here is a list of over 900 Linux viruses found in the wild:
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?words=linux&search_mode=vir
us&search=Search...
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http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?words=linux&search_mode=vir
us&search=Search...
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2006-11-07
Anonymous
Anonymous
"I think it is because so many Linux users are so sure that they can't be infected by a virus, that the number of linux viruses are are seeing such an upsurge, here is a list of over 900 Linux viruses found in the wild:
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?words=linux&search_mode=vir
us&search=Search"...
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http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?words=linux&search_mode=vir
us&search=Search"...
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Virtualization now allowed?
2006-10-31
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
In other news, Microsoft sais:
- You cannot run vista if your name is Bob and you were born on a Sunday
- You cannot run vista if the color of your computer is blue and you have a red chair
- You are not allowed to run vista if you like potatoes and britney spears
what is common in all the abo...
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- You cannot run vista if your name is Bob and you were born on a Sunday
- You cannot run vista if the color of your computer is blue and you have a red chair
- You are not allowed to run vista if you like potatoes and britney spears
what is common in all the abo...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
I believe that MS are providing the tools for oppression on a grand scale.
Already today we have printers putting watermarks on printed pages to help trace who printed what. The ability to relate the writer of documents in MSWord to the PC that produced them and the link between that PC and the use...
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Already today we have printers putting watermarks on printed pages to help trace who printed what. The ability to relate the writer of documents in MSWord to the PC that produced them and the link between that PC and the use...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-01
Anonymous
Anonymous
Computer technology is my profession. My computer career began in about 1964.
Here are 2 comments--one on the virtualization issue and the other on customer patience.
Within the last 5 years advances in performance of architectures, such as x86, have produced a current crop of machines with e...
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Here are 2 comments--one on the virtualization issue and the other on customer patience.
Within the last 5 years advances in performance of architectures, such as x86, have produced a current crop of machines with e...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
I don't think the EULA really matters - everything I have read these are not legally binding contracts and you can fight it in court any day.
On a side note - who's actually going to buy Vista anyways? I'll wait a few months until all the bugs are worked out and magically acquire a copy somehow....
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On a side note - who's actually going to buy Vista anyways? I'll wait a few months until all the bugs are worked out and magically acquire a copy somehow....
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A big big warning on the link
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
so now it's allowed to put a link to further condition on the licence? but that opens up a real BIG problem: the licence is allowed to change at any time. If that clause is validated by some tribunal set up, then we are opening to microsoft the ability to change the licence anytime. The fact is that...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
The uproar may have prompted Micro$oft to back off. The EULA for Vista is nowhere to be found on your link. I wouldn't blame them for reconsidering. This policy would alienate the base of users that are providing Redmond with this substantial revenue, without affecting the real piracy base (India an...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
Howard (2 replies)
Howard (2 replies)
Just for Fun, I thought I'd read the EULA. I couldn't find Vista in the drop down and when I did a search, it returned "no results". Has the EULA for Vista been removed or did I miss something?...
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License transfers and upgrades
2006-11-02
Anonymous Freak
Anonymous Freak
"As I read this, you go to the store and buy a copy of Vista, which you install on a PC you had in your office. A year later, another PC becomes available that's a bit more up to date, so you decide to transfer your Vista license to that machine.
You're now finished with that Vista license."
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You're now finished with that Vista license."
I...
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When is censorship bad?
2006-11-02
A guy (1 replies)
A guy (1 replies)
"Beyond the fact that censorship is almost always a bad thing (I'll agree that it's permissible in a very few cases involving national security, but that's about it)"
Beside the point but...
What about incitement to crime? Can I tell your neighbor to murder you?
What about the highly offensive?...
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Beside the point but...
What about incitement to crime? Can I tell your neighbor to murder you?
What about the highly offensive?...
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Re: When is censorship bad?
2006-11-03
Anonymous
Anonymous
> Beside the point but...
> What about incitement to crime?
Depends. Does it fall under "fighting words"? Then it's illegal in the US. It doesn't? Then it's not illegal.
> Can I tell your neighbor to murder you?
See above.
> What about the highly offensive? Can I put up posters of goat...
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> What about incitement to crime?
Depends. Does it fall under "fighting words"? Then it's illegal in the US. It doesn't? Then it's not illegal.
> Can I tell your neighbor to murder you?
See above.
> What about the highly offensive? Can I put up posters of goat...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
pdschmid
pdschmid
The .NET benchmarking license clause is identical to what I read in the license book accompanying the MSDN library.
I read the virtualization clause different than you: "4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or oth...
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I read the virtualization clause different than you: "4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or oth...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA - allows reassignment!
2006-11-02
Hal
Hal
Clause 15 regarding reassignment does not read as quoted here. Here's Home Basic:
"15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE
"a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices...
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"15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE
"a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices...
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Paul Thurrott
2006-11-02
Thurrott Apologist and Defender of Good Sense (1 replies)
Thurrott Apologist and Defender of Good Sense (1 replies)
I am sorry, but this is merely coordinated whining not news. It is both unprofessional and irresponsible to disect an EULA from a product still in beta and get all bent out of shape. The product is under development, as is its EULA.
However, you really lost me with your statement "C'mon. How stup...
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However, you really lost me with your statement "C'mon. How stup...
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Re: Paul Thurrott
2006-11-08
Anonymous
Anonymous
"You state that two license transfers of Vista is not enough, though at the same time, you state that almost all machines come with Vista installed. Therefore, there would be absolutely no need to transfer Vista onto a newer machine you'd acquire, as that machine would have it preinstalled."
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
J WHTN
J WHTN
Here's a real simple question---
Take the benchmark results thing you referred to in your article-- the way around it seems easy, just use somebody else's computer and copy (copies) of windows. Then _you_ aren't bound by the EULA-- its not your computer OR copy of windows, and Microshit can't com...
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Take the benchmark results thing you referred to in your article-- the way around it seems easy, just use somebody else's computer and copy (copies) of windows. Then _you_ aren't bound by the EULA-- its not your computer OR copy of windows, and Microshit can't com...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-02
Anonymous
Anonymous
Geez. How many people are going to keep misreading this. If you read it carefully, it does NOT forbid using the OS on virtual hardware. What it does forbid is using 2 copies of the same licensed product, one on physical and a second on virtual hardware, at the same time. The reason they put that...
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Yay for OSX
2006-11-02
Graham J
Graham J
I must say that I'm very glad I switched to a MacBook earlier this year. MS is getting more and more greedy, both for money and control over your computer. Apple may not be perfect but OSX is as close as you get to perfect, OS-wise, and its EULA is quite reasonable.
Don't like MS's EULA? Switch t...
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Don't like MS's EULA? Switch t...
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Fox News
2006-11-03
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Re: Fox News
2007-03-04
Anonymous
Anonymous
If you like Fox News, more power to you, that's absolutely great (no sarcasm implied). If you think they're fair and balanced, you're a moron. SG didn't belittle Fox News, he pointed out a simple fact which some are fond of and others are not. Accordingly, it was not a political statement, just a...
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Is the limitation on reporting .Net Benchmarks a violation of free speech?
2006-11-06
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Is Microsoft's demand on how one reports .NET 3.0 testing a violation of free speech? Can an end user license agreement stipulate how you report your findings? Here in the U.S. does an EULA now trump the First Amendment?
I now declare that .NET 3.0 is slower than a comparable Java application...
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I now declare that .NET 3.0 is slower than a comparable Java application...
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Re: Is the limitation on reporting .Net Benchmarks a violation of free speech?
2006-12-04
Anonymous (1 replies)
Anonymous (1 replies)
Here is the First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grieva...
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grieva...
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Re: Re: Is the limitation on reporting .Net Benchmarks a violation of free speech?
2007-04-11
Anonymous
Anonymous
I do agree that Microsoft has been jumping the gun on the law quite a bit. (More and more, from version to version.) All I want to say is: I don't want to pay 400+ dollars for an EULA. I want to pay for software. I want it to work. And I don't want restrictions.
I am a Linux User, and I am a Win...
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Surprises in MS EULA: Is it really that big a deal?
2006-11-07
GP (1 replies)
GP (1 replies)
I'm in no way supporting the Vista EULA and I'm pretty much as outraged as the next poster. But then again playing devil's advocate is fun. So as the topic stated, is it really that big a deal? I mean sure parts of the EULA seems very draconian or Big Brother-ish but I wouldnt be all up and in ar...
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Re: Surprises in MS EULA: Is it really that big a deal?
2007-04-12
Anonymous
Anonymous
When did you ever have to "reinvest" to switch from MS to Linux? Maybe you bought to pretty box with the cds in it, as opposed to the free download?
You COULD make the argument that you would have to retrain your users, but you will most likely have to do that anyways to switch to Vista......
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You COULD make the argument that you would have to retrain your users, but you will most likely have to do that anyways to switch to Vista......
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-12
Polishing The Brass On The Titanic
Polishing The Brass On The Titanic
The motivating assumption underlying those segments of Microsoft?s EULA and their latest activation policies are an effort to avert software piracy. It is correct that contractual agreements that may vary over time are not enforceable by law. It is also true that Microsoft?s increased pricing plan i...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-18
Anonymous
Anonymous
I wonder if Microsoft's lawyers really thought though the implications of their anti-virtualization restriction. Given the current architectures of Intel's and AMD's chips, which properly speaking emulate the IA32 architecture, it is not clear to me that it is legal to run Vista on any currently pro...
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Surprises Inside Microsoft Vista's EULA
2006-11-21
Anonymous
Anonymous
It's all about censoring other competitors. Censorship is becoming America's favorite past-time. The US gov't (and their corporate friends), already detain protestors, ban books like "America Deceived" from Amazon and Wikipedia, and fire 21-year tenured, BYU physics professor Steven Jones because...
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Micro$oft Micro$oft when will you learn
2006-11-21
Masher1
Masher1
Hey Bill Go ask around SONY about playing games. I will never buy another M$ OS ever! So all those Programmers had better find other work. Off the shelf RootKit software lurking in games,Audio and DVD's,DRM Activstion VISTA OS SPY TOOLS!!!
ENOUGH ALLREADY! I now own 16 PAID versions of windows. 1...
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ENOUGH ALLREADY! I now own 16 PAID versions of windows. 1...
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Microsoft Vista - The Future Of Computing ???
2006-11-23
Anonymous
Anonymous
Vista betas have proven to me that my high performance nitro powered computer CAN run slower than my old 8088-10mhz machine. I can use Vista to slow my computer way down and play my old dusty DOS games now.
I guess 4 ghz just ain't e-nuff...sigh...
Why not bring back Win98 ? You could snaz up ...
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I guess 4 ghz just ain't e-nuff...sigh...
Why not bring back Win98 ? You could snaz up ...
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