Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick

Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick
Tim Mullen, 2002-02-11

What are we to make of Microsoft tapping a former hacker prosecutor and IP lawyer for its top security spot? Nothing good.

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-11
The Real World (3 replies)

The information security community has grown out of academic circles and has entered the main stream. However, it seems that it wants to hold on the very academic idea that ALL information should be free-flowing with little or not restriction.

This philosophy works great in labs and universities...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-12
trowe

"This philosophy works great in labs and universities. However, in the real world, where businesses base their
existance on information, full disclosure (i.e. disclosure without allowing the vendor to publish a patch first) is
wreckless and irresponsible. (To all the flamers: I don't work for ...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-15
Serious_Poo

My $0.02: Until corporations such as Microsoft act responsibly in identifying and fixing security holes in their products, I fully support full disclosure of product security vulnerabilities. Remember L0pht vs. Microsoft a couple of years ago? Mudge from the L0pht tried to inform MS about their w...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-19
Road Rules

Another voice from MTV:

Infomation Security is not so new that it has just "grown out of academic circles", it has been around a while.

Full Disclosure is not some FSF inspired "information should be free" movement. It has grown from a desire to make software vendors even somewhat responsible ...

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DRM OS and vulnerability disclosure 2002-02-11
batz (1 replies)

Interesting points, and they will probably come to pass, however, they will probably be independant of one another.

The link between Charney and DRM OS is a little thin, but the link between DRM/OS and the DMCA is worth investigating. I look forward to reading stories on it.

Your mention o...

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DRM OS and vulnerability disclosure 2002-02-24
Anonymous

We should boycott this Bill Gates guy until he makes his own code that isn'nt stolen and full of holes. This Lindows os will proably out sell MS when finally introduced to the public, and you won't have worry about this security guy they hired. GOOOOOOOOOO Lindows....

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-12
Richard H. Rowson (1 replies)

War with whom? Their customers?...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-12
Anonymous

[...]
War with whom? Their customers?
[...]

With anyone who opposes their dominance of the marketplace, or undermines the marketplace as the dominant intrastructure of the world.

There are things that work just fine outside the confines of the Market, but unfortunately, those things unde...

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Charney the Lawyer 2002-02-12
David (1 replies)

I have to agree with Tim and say that I am very disappointed in Microsoft's selection of Charney. Given all the criticism MS has had to endure (mostly deserved I'm sorry to say) in the realm of Security, it is a missed opportunity to not have hired an InfoSec heavy hitter. Instead, they hired a la...

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Charney the Lawyer 2002-02-25
Name withheld by request

Actually, Microsoft DID try to hire an infosec heavy-hitter. I know someone who was offered the job, and turned it down.

He told me that he got to looking at .net and realized that it was about "taking over the world" (his words). He turned down the offer on ethical reasons.

It may be that a...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-12
ArtFart

"Some at Microsoft with whom I shared this point of view insist that I am being a paranoid conspiracy theorist"

The very fact that they would respond in such a way suggests that you aren't....

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-12
Esqape (1 replies)

While Charney may not be the most technical person that Microsoft could have picked for the job, anyone who has worked with him knows that he has other assets on his side. He is a straight shooter. He has the intellect, intuition and experience to understand the far flung implications of security ...

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-15
Anonymous

That's precisely why Charney is an ominous pick for the choice of Chief Security Strategist -- the fact that he is a Washington, DC lawyer implies that Microsoft's strategy will consist mostly of political/legal maneuvering (i.e., DMCA gamesmanship) instead of technical excellence....

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Charney a Pragmatic Microsoft Pick 2002-02-19
Howard

Of course, with Microsoft's courtroom involvement, it could be that it is considerably cheaper to have a lawyer on payroll than to keep hiring them for at their hourly rate....

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-25
Anonymous (1 replies)

I'd liked to have seen Steve Gibson get the nod. He has quite a bit of experience with Hackers and other Evil Doers....

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-27
Anonymous

Hmm! I am not sure whether this a serious statement or very bad joke....

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Charney an Ominous Microsoft Pick 2002-02-27
Anonymous

An unfortunate choice. Again it goes to the Microsoft way of doing things, "Let's find some other way around our problems."
We will prosecute the "hacker" and hopefully it will scare others and they will leave us alone. Clean up and ensure quality? Apparently this is an unreasonable idea. Conspira...

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