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Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2001-03-15

Verio cuts off EFF co-founder John Gilmore over open mail server.

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Spam, or not... 2001-03-15
dirge (2 replies)
Spam, or not... 2001-03-16
Kidd Kasper
Spam, or not... 2001-03-16
Someone Who Writes Mail Servers For A Living
How hard IS THIS REALLY? 2001-03-16
xrayspx
Wake up 2001-03-16
Al Huger (1 replies)
Wake up 2001-03-20
Rob Hughes
Spam 2001-03-16
Concerned Patron
John has a good point: 2001-03-16
A non-delusional Spam-hater (3 replies)
John has a good point: 2001-03-17
Steve Cohen
John has a good point: 2001-03-18
Stephen J. Friedl
John has a good point: 2001-03-19
Alun Jones
ISPs are doing what the majority want 2001-03-16
someonesomewhere (1 replies)
RE:ISPs are doing what the majority want 2001-03-19
someone247356_AT_yahoo.com (2 replies)
RE:ISPs are doing what the majority want 2001-03-19
someonesomewhere
Search for a better solition 2001-03-17
Gerrie (1 replies)
Search for a better solition 2001-03-19
Alun Jones
open relay irresponsible 2001-03-18
bob niederman
Spam is wrong & open relays don't help BUT...! 2001-03-19
0160 Founder of The Foundation for Peace and Opportunity Seekers since 1987 & Admin of Small ISP in California USA (2 replies)
Foolish thing for an ISP to do 2001-03-20
Net Citizen (1 replies)
Foolish thing for an ISP to do 2001-03-22
Alun Jones <alun (at) texis (dot) com [email concealed]>
Good! Yet another open relay closed! 2001-03-21
Jeroen Wijnands
What the heck does rights and freedoms have to do with this? 2001-03-21
someonesomewhere
Where do you people make up this 'freedoms' denied stuff? His mail server wasnt filtered because of the content, what he said, or did, or threatened, or ANYthing. It was filtered because he didnt care if someone abused something that he does NOT own (the connection) by sending tens of thousands of emails through his system that causes problems, problems that people normally wouldnt have anything to do with any of it, but now have to. What was Verio supposed to do? Ignore the hundereds if not thousands of complaints they got? Completely look away from their policies that have to be agreed to by binding contract? Is there anything in there that said anything about "he cant say those things"? Nooooo...

Monitor and control ideas? Lesse... the bigger ISPs have millions if not tens of millions of individuals using their networks... so, each ISP is going to hire hundereds of thousands of people to work 24/7 and can read the millions of emails an hour and monitor ALL the connections from dialup to optical backbones to control something? Um. No.

People are completely obligated to have an opinion, and I respect that. But it irks me when people start saying 'my rights were violated' this and 'its a free country' that. Its the first thing that comes out of someones mouth when they have no idea what actually is going on or they are just mad they cant do every little thing they want to. Seems to me, John is just throwing a little tantrum because he couldnt have his way.

Rights and freedoms are relative. I cant park in handicapped space, my neighbor cant walk in the middle of the street naked, my friends cant dump oil and gas out on the ground, our local restaurants cant keep the meat out in unclean buckets in the bathrooms, and no one regardless of country, ethnic background, whatever, has the 'right' to do any or everything.

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