, SecurityFocus 2000-04-17
Is Open Source really more secure than closed? Elias Levy says there's a little security in obscurity.
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Netscape developers are weenies!
2000-04-17
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Bug *fixes*...?
2000-04-17
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Re: bug fixes
2000-04-17
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
Examine the record...
2000-04-17
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Comparing Apache and IIS is wrong
2000-04-17
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You've made several critical mistakes in your comment.
2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (3 replies)
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (3 replies)
Sorry about the bad formatting.
2000-04-17
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Re: Bruce Parens' Defense of Open Source
2000-04-17
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
How to respond to past reports of vulnerability
2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Re: How to respond to past reports of vulnerability
2000-04-18
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
I don't think you get what he's talking about, Dave...
2000-04-19
Barry Fitzgerald <reaperx1 (at) netscape (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Barry Fitzgerald <reaperx1 (at) netscape (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Thanks for the additional info but...
2000-04-17
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Trust-worthyness and ability to spot bugs
2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]>
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]>
Skill is always at a premium
2000-04-17
Christopher Petrilli <petrilli (at) amber (dot) org [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Christopher Petrilli <petrilli (at) amber (dot) org [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Who found the sendmail bug?
2000-04-17
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Morris didn't find the Sendmail bug
2000-04-20
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
to expand on what i said earlier.
2000-04-17
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]>
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]>
So what you're saying is that open source software is often as insecure as closed-source software is most of the time.
2000-04-18
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Correct the facts and the conclusions stand strong
2000-04-21
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
Original Bugtraq mailing list description?
2000-04-21
Robert Quinn <rquinn (at) pobox (dot) com [email concealed]>
Robert Quinn <rquinn (at) pobox (dot) com [email concealed]>

made in your article. Your estimation that in the time
someone audits one closed-source product he can audit
10 open-source programs is just a huge exagerration.
Looking for strcpy() or sprintf() or other 'notorious'
library calls is no harder in a compiled program than in
an open-source one. If you take into account that most
standard-library functions such as the ones mentioned above
are either automatically recognized by script-driven
disassemblers or automatically seen as they are imported
from dynamically loadable modules it becomes clear that
the techniques involved with auditing binary programs
are different, the level of difficulty is not much higher.
All in all there is really no difference between a closed-
source program and an open source one when coming to
auditing it, but when _fixing_ it, an open source program
can be easily fixed by even an average programmer temp-
orarily, while a compiled program has to be binary-patched
which is something far fewer people are capable of doing.
With response times of several weeks for many closed-source
vendors, one should think twice which product to choose.
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