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Elias Levy, SecurityFocus 2000-04-17

Is Open Source really more secure than closed? Elias Levy says there's a little security in obscurity.

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Netscape developers are weenies! 2000-04-17
Anonymous (2 replies)
Netscape developers are weenies! 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
haha... 2000-04-18
Anonymous
Ever hear of SourceSafe? 2000-04-17
Anonymous (3 replies)
MS vs. Linux 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Like most MS products 2000-04-17
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MS has SourceSafe (hehe) 2000-04-17
Anonymous
SourceSafe Rocks 2000-04-17
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Please emphasize your conclusion 2000-04-17
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Bug *fixes*...? 2000-04-17
Anonymous (2 replies)
Re: bug fixes 2000-04-17
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
What? 2000-04-17
Anonymous
a bit reactionary, eh? 2000-04-18
Anonymous (1 replies)
potentialities and realities 2000-04-18
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]>
Latest MS bug fixed same day 2000-04-18
Anonymous (1 replies)
Good response, MS 2000-04-19
Anonymous
Wide Open Source 2000-04-17
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Open Source Security 2000-04-17
Anonymous
You forgot one thing: 2000-04-17
Anonymous
But you ignore the obvious 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Auditing of compiled code not much harder ... 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Forget about strcpy() 2000-04-17
Anonymous
good analysis... 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Examine the record... 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Comparing Apache and IIS is wrong 2000-04-17
Anonymous (2 replies)
crap load along with Apache. 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Comparison of Apache and IIS is Dead On 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
>You can not compare them. Apache is a webserver. IIS is a

>webserver with a whole crapload of other junk around.

Actually, I think that this observation merely reinforces the validity of the contention that open source software is generally inherently more secure. Why is there a whole bunch of crap force-bundled with IIS? Because the market mechanisms that sustain closed source programming also favour the tying and integration of unrelated components against the dictates of good engineering sense. This makes it harder for others to interoperate with you, reverse engineer you, and replace you, even in the partial extent that a new entrant could hope to achieve.

>Apache is minimal on purpose.

That's right. There are no such market pressures exerted by the legal constructions around open source; the GPL, etc. are specifically built to avoid these distortions. Because of this, open source software is most useful to other programmers, that is, is most used in final open source software, when the code is decoupled into well-engineered components whose intent is easy to understand and verify. Therefore, open source software has fewer security holes, and they are easy to spot and fix for the brief time that they exist.

Cheers,

David Ballantyne

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Path of the weak 2000-04-17
Anonymous
You've made several critical mistakes in your comment. 2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (3 replies)
Sorry about the bad formatting. 2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]>
Re: Bruce Parens' Defense of Open Source 2000-04-17
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (2 replies)
How to respond to past reports of vulnerability 2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Re: How to respond to past reports of vulnerability 2000-04-18
David Terrell <dbt (at) meat (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
I don't think you get what he's talking about, Dave... 2000-04-19
Barry Fitzgerald <reaperx1 (at) netscape (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Indeed there are a lot of bugs 2000-04-18
Anonymous
Thanks for the additional info but... 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Trust-worthyness and ability to spot bugs 2000-04-17
Bruce Perens <bruce (at) perens (dot) com [email concealed]>
Skill is always at a premium 2000-04-17
Christopher Petrilli <petrilli (at) amber (dot) org [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Rigorous methodology 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Blackhat? 2000-04-17
batz <batsy (at) vapour (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
semantics 2000-04-17
Ryan Russell <ryan (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>
Some good points... 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Open source as a democracy 2000-04-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Politics are irrelevant 2000-04-17
Anonymous
This isn't OSS vs. CSS 2000-04-17
Anonymous
bugs? yeah. fixes? right away 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Apples and Oranges 2000-04-17
Anonymous (2 replies)
re: Apples and Oranges 2000-04-17
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NSA/Linux 2000-04-20
Anonymous
Blackhat, whitehat, whatever. 2000-04-17
Anonymous
Who found the sendmail bug? 2000-04-17
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]> (1 replies)
Morris didn't find the Sendmail bug 2000-04-20
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
to expand on what i said earlier. 2000-04-17
Brett <disfunct (at) radiusnet (dot) net [email concealed]>
Attitudes 2000-04-17
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Rates of evolution 2000-04-17
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just a few little things... 2000-04-17
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a quick Summary and rant 2000-04-17
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OSS vs closed 2000-04-17
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Banks, The NSA, and US companies. 2000-04-18
Anonymous
Open source? Use real examples! 2000-04-18
Anonymous
Come on 2000-04-18
Anonymous
Correct the facts and the conclusions stand strong 2000-04-21
Rick Smith <rick_smith (at) securecomputing (dot) com [email concealed]>
Original Bugtraq mailing list description? 2000-04-21
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