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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing
Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus 2003-01-13

Sick and tired of a revolving door justice system that lets hackers skate with just a few measly years in prison? Or do you think that the courts are already too hard on online miscreants who sometimes go up the creek for longer than many killers?

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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing 2003-01-13
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How about this for an idea... 2003-01-15
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Here are some points to consider, also a response to the dimwitted "troll" insult which told someone to shut up. 2003-01-14
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Definition of "hacker". 2003-01-15
Person who thinks terrorism doesn't exist beyond crime.
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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing 2003-01-13
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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing 2003-01-14
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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing 2003-01-14
JL
It doesn't seem fair that anyone should have to serve time for exploring computers. The people who break the laws live outside our country and don't face our rules or problems. It would be unfair to make laws that hurt our own people. Most of the people who've written the publicly noticeable worms and viruses have been people foreign to America -- places like Malaysia and Sweeden. The point is, everyone who doesn't know about computers or computer security has no idea what they're talking about. It's the whitehats and the people who actually know about things that are getting hurt. We're hurting the good people of the world based off of laws that aren't even founded. Every American freedom has been getting taken away since John Ashcroft has been put into his position and his use of 9/11 is disgraceful. How would you feel if you went into a public place, like a library, and you sat down to read a book -- next thing you know, you're surrounded by police and you're arrested. That is the the same thing. Just because something is more accessible to people than other things, doesn't make them bad people, and it's constitutionally unfair to the people it affects.

In the beginning of the century it was told that SSN's would never be used to track people, and look where that got us. You cannot base freedoms upon what events happen or don't happen.

"Those would would prefer security over freedom, deserve neither" -- Ben Franklin

If you're willing to give up every freedom you have for a little sense of security, you're crazy. EVERY freedom is being taken away and the only people who seem to care are the people who aren't ignorant, or the people who aren't running this country. It's not fair to me, to you or to the entire world that we can just sit by and watch stuff like this happen without doing anything about it. And you call this freedom? This is nothing more than a way to tell the half of the world that doesn't sit behind a computer what to do. If someone from al Queda does hack into our government computers, breaking our laws and every rule written, are we going to go over there and arrest them? No. Yet, they're supporting the idea of cyberterrorism attacking our countries, so we need more laws. We don't need more laws -- we need more hackers. We need more people understanding what's going on, than the average political dingdong. If these are the people you call criminials -- we still need them. When they finally end hacktivism, do you think they'll stop there? This is becoming another facist state, and it's starting with the hackers.

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Feds seek public input on hacker sentencing 2003-01-14
Anonymous (1 replies)
Exploration of data? Please. 2003-01-14
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Exploration of data? Please. 2003-01-15
Anonymous
Exploration of data? Please. 2003-01-16
Anonymous
Before Sentencing, Setting The Standards - Guidelines - 2003-01-15
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It is a crime, they should be punished. 2003-01-15
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It is a crime, they should be punished. 2003-01-15
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It is a crime, they should be punished. 2003-01-15
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Intelligent discussion -- ? 2003-01-16
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Stupid is as Feds does 2003-01-16
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Feds seek public input on 'hacker' sentencing 2003-01-17
United States Defense Security Intelligence Network (U.S. DSIN)
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