well, I have been called paranoid and stupid by more security people than I can count. even on those forums where they want to see the files.but what I have seen in all my pcs that got hijacked is more horrible than any file I could reproduce. at least the tech guy at symantec had the sense to be so freaked out by what I showed him that he hung up.

what i have seen is the 'impossible' being done just the same. when what has your pc has disabled your printer, cd rom and often your net connection so only it can dial out, you are left with only what u know to be true. i put my pcs to bed and figured let them duke it out and 'the truth will out'.

this pc is infected too but just not as bad as mine.have seen them go doa in a week to a few months depending on how well built they are. with all those rogue dlls hammering to get out like 'ET dialing home', the fbs is overclocked and it has so many processes going that seek time is horrible.i saw one pc get morphed into something that was not windows anymore. the files and programs were advanced unix, QNX, Linux,even one was mac. scrub the drive it says no os, but found a good test was to put any Linux distro on and it got root before I could get my accounts up.

still do not know how a pc could be hijacked that has never been online, or how I have seen now 4 laptops in a row infected out of the box. the signs are suble, but u do get to know those things, things which no one would believe.

oh well, guess someone will figure it out or we are looking a less than stellar future. so sitting out this round since the 'enemy' has bigger guns. the weaker opponent only wins by doing the unexpected. has always been that way.

kudos

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