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The Blind Leading the Blind
Elias Levy, SecurityFocus 2001-08-30

If security software vendors can't write secure code, what chance does anyone else have?

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What about us tinkerers? 2001-08-31
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How about us security tinkerers writing code? At least we try our code and have no financial preassure to get a product shipped in time. Also, we do not go around proclaiming ourself as experts....

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