Adding Security to the Cert

Adding Security to the Cert
Tim Mullen, 2003-06-09

Shiftless third-party prep courses have made MCSE certification less valuable. Is Microsoft's new security cert doomed to the same fate?

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Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-09
George Capehart (1 replies)

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Anonymous (2 replies)

Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)

Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous (1 replies)

Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-17
Anonymous

Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? 2003-06-09
Penguinisto (3 replies)

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? You mean like a 'brain'? 2003-06-09
Cirque du Microsoleil (3 replies)

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? You mean like a 'brain'? 2003-06-10
Anonymous

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? You mean like a 'brain'? 2003-06-10
Penguinisto

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? You mean like a 'brain'? 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? You mean like a 'brain'? 2003-06-11
Anonymous

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (3 replies)

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-11
Anonymous

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Penguinisto

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? - RHCE? What's that? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (4 replies)

You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous (2 replies)

You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous

You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-13
Anonymous (1 replies)

You'll learn once you get fired... 2003-06-19
Anonymous

Actually... 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)

Actually... 2003-06-12
Anonymous

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? - RHCE? What's that? 2003-06-11
Anonymous

MCSE has value, but does RHCE? - RHCE? What's that? 2003-06-17
Anonymous

Perhaps it takes more than just more tests... ungh, you again? doesn't this happen EVERY TIME? 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-11
Penguinisto (1 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
blacklight (1 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
Anonymous (2 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-16
Penguinisto

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-17
blacklight (1 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-17
Anonymous (1 replies)

Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-19
blacjklight

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Anonymous (3 replies)

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Anonymous

Adding Security to the Cert - Feeding the Trolls 2003-06-10
Yet Another AC...

Adding Security to the Cert, then watching the *nixers complain about it. 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)

Adding Security to the Cert, then watching the *nixers complain about it. 2003-06-11
Anonymous

Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-09
Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (2 replies)

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Anonymous (1 replies)

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Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (3 replies)

Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Anonymous (2 replies)

I guess I'll feed this troll.

I can't speak for the other guy, but I don't have an M-5. So, you wouldn't see me anyway. I have a BMW, and could care less about the M-5. But that is all you know- your nitch product. My mechanic does what I tell him to do. I pay him for his work. And if he doesn't like me driving in full time fwd, then screw him. I do whatever I want to my car, and grease monkeys like you do what ever I tell you to. You are just a mechanic; I am the one that pays your salary. If I don't like you, there are a million more just like you with your opinions of how I should drive. But guess what? You work for me. I tell you what to do, and you do it.

It is not that people like us "don't get it" it is that we make lots of money selling technology, and that peon admins like you are stuck.

That is the nature of security. We need cars, and you try to tell us how to drive them. Why? Who cares? If I get in a wreck, I'll just buy another one. And another one after that. If I don't want to drive safely, I don't have to.

Don't feel so bad- I really do understand your frustration. Maybe you should go work for BMW.

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Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Penguinisto

Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic

"Microslop"? Exactly how old are you? 10? 2003-06-11
Anonymous

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Anonymous (1 replies)

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Wolfgang...friend of Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (2 replies)

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Anonymous (1 replies)

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Bill Gates

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Anonymous

You ALL need training wheels 2003-06-11
Brett F. Jones (2 replies)

You ALL need training wheels 2003-06-12
Anonymous

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blacklight

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Anonymous