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Adding Security to the Cert
Tim Mullen, 2003-06-09

Shiftless third-party prep courses have made MCSE certification less valuable. Is Microsoft's new security cert doomed to the same fate?

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Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-09
George Capehart (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous (2 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
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Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-17
Anonymous
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? 2003-06-09
Penguinisto (3 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (3 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-11
Anonymous
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Penguinisto
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? - RHCE? What's that? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (4 replies)
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous (2 replies)
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-13
Anonymous (1 replies)
Actually... 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)
Actually... 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Perhaps it takes more than just more tests... ungh, you again? doesn't this happen EVERY TIME? 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-11
Penguinisto (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
blacklight (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
Anonymous (2 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-17
blacklight (1 replies)
I look at both sides of the story, because that's my job as a security professional. I am certainly not neutral in the Linux vs. M$ dispute - in fact, I could be standing opposite Timothy Mullen for all I know. I don't know for sure, because in 12 months of follwing his columns, he has yet to say one bad thing about Linux or UNIX. Whatever the case may be, he and I disagree as serious professionals when we do disagree and I do respect him because he sticks to the facts.

This forum is or should be for security professionals to discuss security issues, or at the very least for IT professionals who are concerned aboutr security. If your main goal around here is to engage in verbal tirades against UNIX/Linux that are at best questionable in content or harass Linux posters, then you should take your business elsewhere: I get more out of Penguinisto than out of you.

You might keep in mind that IBM is running an extremely successful consulting business with Linux, that both www.google.com, www.amazon.com and probably www.ebay.com are running their sites on Linux-based clusters, before you continue recklessly badmouthing Linux. In fact, www.amazon.com's switchover to Linux was probably a key factor in pushing them clearly into the black. I am not saying that every migration to Linux is successful, and I take no responsibility for poorly planned migrations. I expect that the City of Munich's migration to Linux will be successful, because IBM is going to make sure of that come hell or high water.

If you are pro-Microsoft, that is your business and your choice. It is no business of mine that you are pro-Microsoft and what you are willing to bet your bread and butter and your career on are strictly your decision to make, and I am not interested in affecting it. Usually, my employers or clients have already decided which way to go, and I go along with the flow - I am not interested in getting into either religious wars or spitting contests with those who pay me for my time. I just don't care about the choices you or anyone else makes, and that is probably why I appear to be neutral.

The fact is: I am not neutral, but I have my own reasons for that and I am betting my own bread and butter and career on my choices. The economic consequences associated with making the wrong choices should be punishment enough for anyone.

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MCSE had value? 2003-06-13
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