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Adding Security to the Cert
Tim Mullen, 2003-06-09

Shiftless third-party prep courses have made MCSE certification less valuable. Is Microsoft's new security cert doomed to the same fate?

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Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-09
George Capehart (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous (2 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-17
Anonymous
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Perhaps it takes more than just more tests...? 2003-06-09
Penguinisto (3 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (3 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-11
Anonymous
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? 2003-06-10
Penguinisto
MCSE has value, but does RHCE? - RHCE? What's that? 2003-06-10
Anonymous (4 replies)
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous (2 replies)
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-11
Anonymous
You'll learn once you get RIF'ed 2003-06-13
Anonymous (1 replies)
Actually... 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)
Actually... 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Perhaps it takes more than just more tests... ungh, you again? doesn't this happen EVERY TIME? 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-11
Penguinisto (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
blacklight (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-12
Anonymous (2 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-17
blacklight (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-17
Anonymous (1 replies)
Is that a Troytech in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? 2003-06-19
blacjklight
"err, actually, it is normally the Linux bums who go on the offensive first. Get your facts straight."

Your argument is essentially that "It's the other guys who started the fire. All I did was pour the gasoline, and therefore it's not my fault ..." and makes about as much sense. It reflects the poorly developed emotional maturity of a spoiled five-year old, with the sense of personal accountability to match.

It's not cute behavior in any five year-old, and it's not acceptable behavior in an adult forum. My presumption is that this forum considers security professionals as adults whose responsibility is to ensure the safety of other adults such as their colleagues and employers. This presumption leaves no room for juvenile delinquency.

The moderator is considerate enough to let you express your thoughts. However, it's not a license for reckless personal attacks and vituperation under the cloak of anonymity. Freedom without responsibility does not make a lot sense, and cannot last for long. If I am wrong about that, I'll look for another forum to contribute to.

Your current justification is "The other guys started it! ...". What's your next argument: "everybody does it, so why pick on me?"

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Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-09
Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (2 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-10
Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (3 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Anonymous (2 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert...and training wheels 2003-06-11
Wolfgang...friend of Heinz the Mercedes Benz Mechanic (2 replies)
You ALL need training wheels 2003-06-11
Brett F. Jones (2 replies)
You ALL need training wheels 2003-06-12
Anonymous
You ALL need training wheels 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
blacklight
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Gunter Geißler
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous (1 replies)
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-10
Anonymous
design security from start 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Adding Security to the Cert 2003-06-12
Anonymous
Field Certified Engineer? 2003-06-13
Anonymous
MCSE raison d'etre 2003-06-13
madcow
MCSE had value? 2003-06-13
Anonymous (1 replies)
MCSE had value? 2003-06-16
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