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Can Microsoft End Spam?
Tim Mullen, 2003-06-30

Unwanted e-mail saps security budgets and wastes everyone's time. It's nice to see Bill Gates take some responsibility for stopping it.

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Can Microsoft End Spam? 2003-06-30
Mark
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Anonymous (3 replies)
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Anonymous
At least the companies have to pay for the flyers to be sent out. Spam causes me charges for my internet connection, it costs me money to have space for all the spam. Flyers i simply throw into the bin in the knowledge that it did cost some substantial amount of money to produce them. In my eyes only a change in law worldwide can really help to minimize spam. With a change in the law it would be possible to also sue ISPs for active Spam support. Top of my list would consist of UUNET, Roadrunner, attbi. In the UK i send a standard invoice to the spammers of £500 for spam removal per piece of spam. Needless to say that i don't receive spam anymore from inside the UK. Unfortunately with countries outside of the UK i have no legal power. Another option would be to put power behind a Anti-Spam campaign where people not only block single sender addresses but the complete source ISPs for ALL access. UUNET and the like would then start to lose customers because a ISP that is not able to link to other parts of the Internet is pretty useless. I think a few million lost customers will cause more loss than kicking known spam operations of the networks. But UUNET and so on don't give a damn... the more mails the more bandwidth needed the more revenue for the ISP. The same is valid for interbusiness.it, several ISPs in Canada, so pretty every network in the Asia Pacific part of the world. My best method against spam is iptables for the complete Network blocks, and it works... i hardly receive any spam anymore and the attacks against my servers also drastically declined. Block all ISPs completely which actively support spam operations!!! If they think they have to support spammers they have to lose the money from genuine Internet users. Surely it is nice that MS wants also to fight spam in large scale, but why do i have to buy software etc. to stop spammers? Every filtering of spam on the client side still uses my bandwidth for which i pay every month. The only difference is that i don't see the spam anymore. Filtering on the mail server still uses the bandwidth of my server. Blocking spam networks cost only a small SYN packet and a very small amount of processing power and gives eternal peace.

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