When you can't argue on the facts, always go for the ad-hominem, huh?

I mean, I could just as easily follow up your little flame attempt with cracks about tin-foil hats, black helicopters, mid-control rays, whatever... but that would accomplish nothing, and winning against your, err, 'argument' is too easy to do in the first palce.

So instead I'm going to issue a wee challenge, if you're up to it:

Please point out where in this big ugly patriot act that we supposedly lose more freedoms than if it never existed in the first place. Even the ACLU screws that up, as the one portion they whine about was just as much existing law before 9/11 (just ask John Gotti) as it is now.

Good luck...

/p

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